FD vs 540i?
06-22-02, 03:55 PM
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FD vs 540i?
i'm curious as the result from a roll.
assuming the FD was BPU (at most) and the 540i had intake, exhaust, and chip (all dinan).
cause yesterday i was riding shotty in my dads 540 and he was following this FD and the FD tried to take off but couldnt even gain any ground on the 540?
i guess mr belvi would know a lot about this .. but..
sorry if stupid question
TIA
assuming the FD was BPU (at most) and the 540i had intake, exhaust, and chip (all dinan).
cause yesterday i was riding shotty in my dads 540 and he was following this FD and the FD tried to take off but couldnt even gain any ground on the 540?
i guess mr belvi would know a lot about this .. but..
sorry if stupid question
TIA
06-22-02, 05:28 PM
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I've raced a couple of stock 540i. My FD only has a DP and CB, I smoked them easily.
I can't imagine that the Dinan stuff gives him that much more HP over a FD with a DP and CB.
Lots of FDs out there that don't have the turbos working right, it might have been a "wounded/sick" FD.
Jeff
I can't imagine that the Dinan stuff gives him that much more HP over a FD with a DP and CB.
Lots of FDs out there that don't have the turbos working right, it might have been a "wounded/sick" FD.
Jeff
06-22-02, 06:20 PM
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I've raced a 2nd gen M3, an 850csi, a 740i and a new 745i.
The 850 was the most fun since the guy was following me around some curvy roads around a mountain and he even broke his shifter while doing it
. As I recall, his exact words were almost along the lines of "WOW!, how many liters do you have, like 5 or 6?" He was a VERY cool guy. After he finally caught up to me at a stop sign , we chatted for a bit.
The M3 and the 745.....ehh. I shouldn't had wasted my fuel
The 850 was the most fun since the guy was following me around some curvy roads around a mountain and he even broke his shifter while doing it
. As I recall, his exact words were almost along the lines of "WOW!, how many liters do you have, like 5 or 6?" He was a VERY cool guy. After he finally caught up to me at a stop sign , we chatted for a bit.The M3 and the 745.....ehh. I shouldn't had wasted my fuel
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06-22-02, 07:19 PM
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my roomate has a 95 540is with the dinan super charger and it is almost as fast as a stock fd from 20-80+
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06-22-02, 07:32 PM
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Re: ??
Originally posted by FD3Seven
540 vs FD!!???? C'MON GUYS...LOL,
MY FD WITH A DP AND K&N'S WILL SMOKE ONE SUPERCHARGED OR NOT
540 vs FD!!???? C'MON GUYS...LOL,
MY FD WITH A DP AND K&N'S WILL SMOKE ONE SUPERCHARGED OR NOT
06-23-02, 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by FD3Seven
540 vs FD!!???? C'MON GUYS...LOL,
MY FD WITH A DP AND K&N'S WILL SMOKE ONE SUPERCHARGED OR NOT
540 vs FD!!???? C'MON GUYS...LOL,
MY FD WITH A DP AND K&N'S WILL SMOKE ONE SUPERCHARGED OR NOT
M5s are faster than stock FDs and probably many modded ones.
I agree with the "probably an FD not functioning properly" diagnosis for the topic of the original post. An FD with basic mods should beat a lightly modded 540.
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06-23-02, 06:49 AM
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Sure I can shine some light on this one since my old car has those mods to it. From a roll or from a stand still, the 540i would get beat, how bad would depend on if it's a 6-speed or automatic and how well of a driver was in the 540i. A 540i with intake, exhaust and chip probably won't get it to being much faster than a stock FD, but a modded one you would need a supercharger. And I don't think there would be many that are willing to pay $13,000 for the Dinan supercharger, even if they did it would only get them to around the same speed as an M5.
And you are right, a intake, exhaust and chip doesn't give you that muc more power over stock, maybe a little over 300hp.
And you are right, a intake, exhaust and chip doesn't give you that muc more power over stock, maybe a little over 300hp.
06-23-02, 06:56 AM
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Originally posted by j9fd3s
my roomate has a 95 540is with the dinan super charger and it is almost as fast as a stock fd from 20-80+
mike
my roomate has a 95 540is with the dinan super charger and it is almost as fast as a stock fd from 20-80+
mike
'98+ 540 w/ superchager = 391hp @6000rpm
The 93-95(E34) 540i's had no vanos, but the 98-02 (E39) do, and that would affect acceleration. And as you can see the one with Vanos reaches it's peak hp earler than the one without.
06-23-02, 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by skunks
Are you sure he was racing you? FD's can get to and cruise at 120 with out breaking a sweat.
Are you sure he was racing you? FD's can get to and cruise at 120 with out breaking a sweat.
06-23-02, 08:23 AM
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Anyway! I thought this thread was about like for like! So if you are gonna throw in a supercharger kit, which I think is a major modification, then we are getting a bit of topic. Because, hey, if we throw 13k at the fd then I think the 540 will be nothing more than a spot in the distance.
Anyway, why a match against a 540 I know it's not my thread but... Thats a solid car but not a true sports car!!!!!! FAST Beema but not a car that excells your driving experience, like the fd!
Why even try to put this car into the same catorgy, when @ the end of the day, stock or modified, the fd will allways give you a far greater driving experience.
The end.....
Anyway, why a match against a 540 I know it's not my thread but... Thats a solid car but not a true sports car!!!!!! FAST Beema but not a car that excells your driving experience, like the fd!
Why even try to put this car into the same catorgy, when @ the end of the day, stock or modified, the fd will allways give you a far greater driving experience.
The end.....
06-23-02, 08:26 AM
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I would think a S/C 540i would be a handful for even a lightly modded FD. Stock numbers on the 540i weren't exactly slow - 5.5 0-60 and 14.2 1/4 is close enough to a stock FD to make him sweat a little. I think the S/C would make them shine on the highway though.
06-23-02, 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by kwikrx7
I would think a S/C 540i would be a handful for even a lightly modded FD. Stock numbers on the 540i weren't exactly slow - 5.5 0-60 and 14.2 1/4 is close enough to a stock FD to make him sweat a little. I think the S/C would make them shine on the highway though.
I would think a S/C 540i would be a handful for even a lightly modded FD. Stock numbers on the 540i weren't exactly slow - 5.5 0-60 and 14.2 1/4 is close enough to a stock FD to make him sweat a little. I think the S/C would make them shine on the highway though.
But an FD is or 2nd gen is NOT JUST a straight line car! Both 7's have very good handling! Which when in the hands can XL most sport cars! With money spent on them, well conversation over!
This is not directly at you.
No flames please!
06-23-02, 08:49 AM
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No flames taken just stating that a S/c 540i would be a handful for a FD with like a dp, and cb. If you have the typical full exhaust, ic and ecu then even a s/c 540i would be a spec in the rearview. I know a m-coupe with a dinan s/c can run high 12s.
just stating that a S/c 540i would be a handful for a FD with like a dp, and cb. If you have the typical full exhaust, ic and ecu then even a s/c 540i would be a spec in the rearview. I know a m-coupe with a dinan s/c can run high 12s.
06-23-02, 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by kwikrx7
No flames taken just stating that a S/c 540i would be a handful for a FD with like a dp, and cb. If you have the typical full exhaust, ic and ecu then even a s/c 540i would be a spec in the rearview. I know a m-coupe with a dinan s/c can run high 12s.
No flames taken
just stating that a S/c 540i would be a handful for a FD with like a dp, and cb. If you have the typical full exhaust, ic and ecu then even a s/c 540i would be a spec in the rearview. I know a m-coupe with a dinan s/c can run high 12s.
But I would like it if this thread was quoting a more exotic, more exciting car than a 540, bbbbbbbooooo and poop.
Like I had a great moment with a F55, which was great fun but I'll shut up cos this is not my thread!
Tat tar...
06-23-02, 10:40 AM
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The 540 has a nice torquey engine, so once it's initial inertia has been overcome, its nice mid-range torque comes into play and it's a different ballgame than a stoplight drag race. I'm not surprised at all that a 540 can give an FD a run for its money in that situation.
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(oh, and i'm happy to plkay mr wizard and demonstrate this to any FD in the NE area. from 50-120 or so the bmw is going to be tough to beat. -gordon)
We will need VIDEO!!
Would just be too fun to post
Later, Jeff
We will need VIDEO!!
Would just be too fun to post
Later, Jeff
06-23-02, 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by gmonsen
the 528 weight 3490 and the 540 weighs 3750. so 11.7lbs/hp. however, the 540 STOCK makes 324 ft lbs peak and 80% of that from 2000-7000 rpm!!!! -gordon
the 528 weight 3490 and the 540 weighs 3750. so 11.7lbs/hp. however, the 540 STOCK makes 324 ft lbs peak and 80% of that from 2000-7000 rpm!!!! -gordon
And that's the real story...the mid-range torque.
A lot of people do this bench racing stuff and they just look at the peak numbers, but in the real world the whole power band comes into play. And if you're rolling along a highway and then begin a race there are a number of high weight-high torque cars that will be able to beat you up to a given speed.
