Perfect example of what Bajaman is talking about. lol.

 

No negative intentions here, but I just was wondering what you do for money. Selling the M3 to buy an RX7 (with at least a $5k motor in it) is not something you hear the average 17 year old saying. It kicks *** that you own the car at your age.
Dan

 

hey im 15 and i hate ricers with a passion. ive learned to hate them because about 50% of the cars in my schools parking lot have the stupid muffler canisters on them and sound like ****. ive wanted an rx7 since i was 13. i know the motors are fragile and know that it will cost me alot of money to maintain but i dont care.. its worth it for the car. i plan on buying a wrecked fd and building it up for drifting, apexi n1 coilovers, cusco front and rear strut tower bars, kazz 2-way lsd, fluidline rad. to protect the 13b, then a big front intercooler to also help deal with the heat ill be creating, then an eagle eye so i can see how hot the motors running....i know this will take along time to get the parts but im prepared to spend the money on it.

 

ok...ladies and gents...time for another 20 year old to speak his mind...i just bought my fd..a month ago...lol..i knew when i bought it what i was getting my self into. i appricate the people i bought it from (mr. and mrs. bently) they really hooked me up..* i.e- new tires, oil change, new clutch, etc. they really did a good job keep the car lookin good..( only 27,250 on the odo) and yes i only paid 14,250. but my insurace is only like 950 for 6 months... yes that is a lot for u older people. but for me...perfect driving record..fist time buyer....it was like a dream come true..now im almost up for an oil change. i dont have alot of knowledge of the car..i did my research..and that sort of thing..im still looking for a shop manual-chiltons or somting along those lines. lol....but i really hope to learn alot from this experience and this forum....and i think a new owners groups section would be a good additon...have some of u older experienced guys teach us new bucks a thing or to..lol..aight thats my 2 cents..(more like 2 dollars...lol) peace and happy driving...
-steve-


- pistions??...who needs pistons?

 

sorry to hear about ur mkIV

 

ok kevin im a young buck....and i dont know ****..but ...how the hell do u run a car with no distributor caps???

 

Yup its expensive to maintain thus why it wont be a ricer.

 

****, I'm 19 and got it when I wasw 16, like Jimlab said, I should justify why I'm a responsible, and not like every other teenager, but, I'd be lying. Although I have worked on cars since I was like 13, my dad is a gear head (owns a TT Supra, 365GTB/4,'64 Vette), I have no at fault accidents, taught myself to drive stick in the mountains, have worked since 12 in a factory, etc, etc, but I'm far from perfect. In all reality, I should have killed myself in the damn car. I love it, and I'm glad I bought it, but, learning to drive a manual tranny RX-7 with only a year's driving experience and no supervision was suicidal. I gotta thank my parents for letting me get it, even though it might have meant an early death. I know younger guys who get fast cars, IE FD RX-7, 2004 Cobra, WRX et al, and I really try to warn them about these cars, how easily you can kill yourself or someone else, and I always get the same response: you did it, so can I. Although I don't see the FD becoming a ricer car so to speak, the initial purchase price of the car has made it very acceptable to the tuner populace, including many, many new drivers. This is a problem on several different levels, but, in reality, what can we do about it? Unless we bribe the guys at NADA and KBB, then agree to not sell our cars for under a certain price, its basically out of our control. It sucks, but thats the way it is. I don't mean to sound pesimistic, but the pricing of the car can only be influenced so much by the RX-7 Club. Damn, I wish I had the power to inflate the cars cost by another $15k or so to keep kids like myself from buying the car, and maybe keep a few more of them alive. Well I guess thats a bit more then .02C, but, oh well, I still love my car, the three year anniversary is upcoming, and its only getting better. Josh

 

i dont think the rd will become a ricer car because as soon as they here that they might have to rebuild the engine in a year or 2 they wont buy it. also they have to plop down like 15k for a nice one that doesnt need to much work put into it so they wont have money for anything else.

 

Um, yeah. Thanks for dropping by.

 

I found it funny to read some earlier posts where some said the FD coudln't be a ricer. Someone said he saw one with an ugly bodykit and wing, but he was sure it was still fast. So by this same logic, would an FD looking like the one in Fast and Furious not be considered rice?



My roommate at college and a friend of his were big ricer guys... The ones that the Skyline is the ultimate thing for... And whenever I mentioned an RX7 at one point, the only thing they knew really was the FD.. I had a pic of the FC and they were like, "What's that?" Me: "An RX7... 2nd gen." Them: "Really? That don't look like an RX-7." Hrm.. Whoops.


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As for the BMWs and those cars not being very ricable... I seem to recall seeing a post a while back about riced up BMWs... Many many pages.. Many many cars.. All very very riced.

 

everything you've said was everything I had in mind. What Zmarko mentioned of the DSM also. Looking at the market, I think it's also nearing the status of say, the Z32. Kind of sucks when you come to think about it. I love my car nonetheless.

 

Ok, please don't flame on me, but I have an RX-7 and I'm only 18 and I'm ASIAN. I bought the car surprisingly from an older guy in the military, and he bought the car from a dealership, a dealership that's known to sell piece of crap rx-7s for really high prices, they sold a junker, (but it had 40k miles on the original engine) for $13k, this car was totalled in the past by the way. However you can actually see my car on the dealership site http://www.cruzinautosales.com/id441.htm If you wait for the page to load my car will be under the Mazda listing, and it's the red one with the black rims and I believe it's either an erebuni or a veilside front bumper. Personally I don't really approve of the front bumper, and I much prefer the stock bumper, pretty much stock everything. The previous owner bought the car from this dealership and in turn i bought it from him. Since than he added an aluminum bomz double decker wing... :P, a DP, UP, exhaust, and BOV. I'm kind of embarassed of the wing and the front bumper it came with, but I deal with it because that's the way I bought it, plus I don't want to take off the wing and have to do a less than perfect bondo job, and repaint it, there'd be an ugly mess on the hatch.
But coming from my standpoint, also considering I'm asian (someone mentioned something about asians) I bought the car because I think it's a respectable machine that needs as much attention as any other vehicle, and I value it for what it's capable of doing. Ever since I bought it like 3 or 4 weeks ago (I've wanted one for 2 years now), it's spent about 2 and a half in the garage, after about 3 or 4 days of driving it, the radiator cracked... leaked coolant, thus losing pressure, and the coolant started to boil, blowing off the overflow bottle hose connected to the AST and spraying steam and coolant all over the engine bay., But I shut it down immediately after it started spraying, and it's been in my garage since, and don't worry I towed it home because I didn't want to take any chances. I've been studying immensely about how the coolant system works, and I've learned so much from it, virtually all of my freetime is either spending time on this site or on others learning about the car, or I'm in the garage working on the car. Since than I've replaced the radiator to the stock manual transmission brass radiator, and changed some of the old hoses. Even though it might not be a big deal to you guys, but I'm proud of myself of acquiring the ability to take apart the front of the engine bay completely and piece it back together (I've done it 2 or 3 times already changing old hoses and old clamps, before discovering it was the cracked upper endtank on the plastic radiator where the leak was coming from). Most of the members on this forum flame on me because they think that I bought the car and modified it with the ugly exterior parts, and it even has a GTP sticker (I think it's a store) and an importfan.com sticker on the side..., but NOPE, you have to realize that the car came in this condition from a 35 year old guy (he may have been younger), and that young asian guys don't necessarily rice. I'm actually selling this one and getting a complete stock one that's a 5sp. (i have an auto) I personally admire the natural stock body lines that the car has, plus I've discovered a lot of ghetto rigged stuff in the engine bay already and just don't feel like messing with it...

 

Alright hater, personally that is just backing up what I had to bring to the discussion earlier. If that is the way you choose to act do so, but I'd like to finish by saying I'd take my car over yours..DONE..any day and in the world of forums, you got absolutely nothing else to say.

I really like Dan Stevenson. You see, he is a member that maturely represents his actual age group, unlike the main man Zmarko's comment above.

Dan, my parents matched me on exactly whatever I had to bring to the table and at the time I had 10k cash from working since 13. Last year I found an M3 selling locally for 20 K. We bought it and sold it recently for 17K. I have no regrets at all. In my neighborhood, kids get cars between 20-60K. The fact that some people hate on my selectivity is rather harsh.

 

I donnu if anyone else caught this but Jim that was hilarious. I couldn't help but wonder what to say about that...

 

There will be less FD's on the road in 5 years and even less stock looking fd's
just makes mine all the more attractive

 

Have to say not a big fan of the stock FD's, but can understand why people have kept them stock. Also a stock engine will last longer than a modded engine.

To be honest just some alloys make the FD look cool.

 

NINjaX7 and the rest of you 17 and 18 year olds have nothing to apolgize about, unles you foolishly wrap your car around a tree or destroy your car by some other cruel and unusual method - failing to change the oil, for instance. Modding cars is a great American tradition. How many model A and T Fords were turned into hot rods? How many 53 Chevys became rail cars? There's lots of Ford Mustangs that have avoided the scrap heap because they are on SCCA road courses during the weekend. If you want to put a wierd wing on your car or a Veilside front spoiler, well, that's fine. The car is being used and to some degree cared for. They can always be returned to stock, later. How many people remember semi-collectable U.S. cars that were sent off to scrap yard because of a blown engine? I can see even on our website that a lot of our remaining 3Gs are being parted out just because of the engine situation. If the 17 and 18 year olds can prevent this from happening to the breed as a whole, then I say fine. Have fun. Just give us old fuds something to work with when you move on. And those of you like NINjaX7, who mature, welcome to the club.

 

This has been one of my pet peeves for a LONG time now. Having owned my FD before that stupid *** FnF movie came out really gave me a perspective of just how much things have really changed in the past few years.

5 years ago I could take my car out for a drive without every fricking civic and local ricer trying to race me. People didn't know what the car was, or what it was capable of, and that's the way I liked it. The 'big list' was a good resource, and the boards had more informative posts with a higher maturity level. You needed a decent paying job to get into an FD back then, they didn't sell for cheap. The average age of the owner was higher.

Fast forward to today. I barely drive my car now because it's a hassle, worrying about people trying to race all the time, and coming out of someplace to find peopel looking at it drives me nuts. Posts on the board have gone downhill tremendously, with the content leaning towards sub par at times. Today, the price of the car has dropped out the bottom from it's age, and people not being patient when they sell it. People screw them up so fast, then try to bail out as quick as possible, lowering the price to unheard of levels, killing the market even more. More and more cars get wrecked my immature, younger drivers. Today, the first thing out of people's mouth is "Dude, does that thing have NOS" or "What's the 1/4 mile on that thing?"

I've considered selling my FD after these past 5 years, but I always end up keeping it, knowing that some day the passing fad will fade, and the people that respect the car and have knowledge will still maintain their interest.

 

There were three main reasons I sold my BPU+ Supra and the RPS T64 single turbo kit I'd just bought for it. The first was that after three years of having an automatic for a daily driver, I just wanted a manual again. The second was that when they bumped the Z06 to 405 horsepower, it was just too good to resist. 405 horsepower, 3,115 lbs., and a warranty? Where do I sign? The third was because every punk in the area seemed to want to race and I was constantly getting buzzed. Maybe there was a fourth... I got one too many compliments on how nice my Honda Prelude was...

The Supra was the first car (duh) with the "Supra-style" wing, hence the name. The Supra wing is actually functional, in that it actually provides downforce at speed. In other words, there was actually a reason for it to be on the back of the car and Toyota put a lot of effort into its design. Then Mitsubishi imitated it on the Eclipse, and then the aftermarket copies started showing up on every silly ricer's car, including some FDs, and it all went downhill from there. You can still see pictures of an FD with a "Supra-style" wing on Pettit's web site, I believe. In other words, it cheapened the experience of having a legitimate performance car, and I got no respect whatsoever because no one seemed to know that my car wasn't rice until after I'd mashed the gas pedal and left them far behind.

That, coupled with (crap, as Fat Bastard would say) the punks that were starting to buy them as the price dropped (check out some of jkisineffect's posts if you want a perfect example) told me that it was time to get out of the Supra world. Maybe later, when things have "calmed down" and TFATF has been forgotten, I'll buy another one. Maybe not. The damage is probably permanent. Even though there are still '98s out there selling for $35k+, the '93s and '94s are now well within range of every kid with a set of stupid parents and a copy of TFATF in the DVD player.

When what used to be a premium sports car starts showing up in high school parking lots, it's probably time to move on. Unless you want to learn l33t speak and hang out with a pack of ignorant kids.

 

That was the question I asked awhile ago.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hlight=sleepr1

 

Every car is becoming a ricer car. I see BMWs, GMs, Ford, trucks, caddys, and even more with ricer garbage. I'm sure all the other car owners are just as sick of it.

BTW, KBB value goes no higher than 16k for even the mintiest FD, and has automatics priced the same as M/Ts. <smack> But many sellers don't know of a better way to price.

Dave

 

I may be late in the game posting here, and I did overlook several posts but I do feel the need to comment and represent my age group.

I am 19, I bought my 1994 RX-7 in April, with my money that I earned. I will not 'rice' my car out or in my opinion ruin it but I wont assault people that chose to do that to their cars as it is their choice, welcome to the free world. I dont like seeing an RX-7 all gobbed up with tacky parts or paint but I dont have a right to do anything about it other than look the other way.

I have seen a lot of ricers and back when I have my 96' Thunderbird V8 with some mods I would see a Honda all 'tricked' out and would even talk to them sometimes... many of them were mild and had pleasent attitudes.... I didnt tell them their cars sucked or cuss them out, I just asked them what they had done and how things were going. Now flip-side to now in my RX-7... I have heard so much crap from V6 Mustang owners and F-body drivers since owning my car. I get flicked off on occasion and other times called a '***' ... this is immaturity... and I'm not talking just teenagers in these cars I have been bashed by 40 year olds because of my car.

People that know, whether their cars are nice or ugly or whatever your opinion is... if they know and are mature in any way they will not be disrespectful of others or their cars. If they dont, no matter what they own they will still be ******.

~Kris

 

"But blue book has it listed for 16k? I'll offer you 12k."

"Then buy someone else's."

 

I was skimming through the board and caught this discussion, im an owner of an FB, mine has been considered rice for years now, plus a 19 year old driving one it HAS TO BE rice. well thats just not the truth, yes mine will get some nice rims and a Mariah widebody, but thats only because i cant stuff enough meat under the fenderwells without em. i plan on finding one of your scrapped out FD's for my engine swap...then ill need the tires. but rice is one persons onpinion over another, mine will have a wing, but will be a solid runner. i grew up in the american hot rod dream...parents owned 3 pre 70's vettes 2 69 SS camaros and GTO Judge, so somthing in me makes it that i can keep a car stock, and everyone calls me rice. so get over it