bajaman

Is it just me or does it appear that all too many, in fact maybe the majority of FDs, are "falling into the wrong hands" so to speak? It seems that even on this forum you see more and more posts from young, inexperienced car owners.....people without a clue in some cases. It is bad enough that these guys can't even speak and spell correctly, it is worse when the posts ALL seem to be along the lines of asking for advice to turn the car into something it was never intended to be. Or sadly all more too common are the threads that are of the "Yo dawgz....I just got this tight FD....man this car is SO fast! I've been racing all my friends and runnin' from the ******' pigs and driftin' like mad....**** this car is fine!" variety, followed all too soon with "Oh ****....totalled my car! And the ******' pigs are giving me ****!" posts.
Certainly there are still a lot of people that own the cars and take the proper care of them and treat them right, and age/experience has nothing to do with that. It just seems to me that those of us that fall into this category are starting to become the minority.

vrmmmpshhh

i guess it depends what you expect from the car in the first place..

Maybe in the states you expect them to be nice sports cars that are highly maintained.

Here in Japan, ive only seen completely stock ones or all out modded ones.. I have very rarely seen one half way like mine which visually only has some 17s and a exhaust.

dgeesaman

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Oh, I don't think it's changed that much, just that early on, the ignorant owners (and there were many, especially because nobody knew FDs were gonna be a bitch to keep) were older and had more expendable $$. Most of the interaction was between them and the dealer. Only a handful of them got together online and started to share the info that we consider common knowledge today. The average FD owner would not have thought to check the Internet or have heard of the RX7 Club. Right after I got my FD last year, I had a conversation with a guy who once owned one, he was a mechanic, and claimed to have owned many turbo'd cars. And yet he didn't know a damn thing about this car.

Now, the owners are becoming more teenagers, and I'm not quite sure how they get them. Yes, the car itself isn't very expensive, but how they get insured I'm puzzled. And they know there are these car forums for all kinds of cars, so they find us. Probably their first time on any forum. So their first post comes off especially ignorant.

Personally, I think we should create a newbie FD section and when a newbie post is made it gets moved there. They can notice how many/often these posts are made, and they will fall off the main board. The advanced tech section is very nice, but a big undertaking. I think culling the newbies would be simpler and more effective.

Dave

GSB

Hmmmmm,

i hear what you're saying, however i have a modded rx but i treat her as she should be treated, no track days and a good wash every saturday. Running a T78 turbo setup.

But yea i think the younger guys have realised how quick the rotary is thus more want the rx7???

particleeffect

meh, it's 10 years old, what do you expect? even the newest supras you can get in the US are 6. time doesn't stop, FD's aren't the corvette killers they once were. most of the people buying them now simply can't afford a zo6 or supra, or are in it for the "rarity".

MR_Rick

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I say we all get together when selling this car and raise the prises

speeddemon7

well guys.with our precious fd's getting cheaper and cheaper each year.Generally.Im sure they become much more attainable.Especially to younger kids and whatnot.I cant really talk too much **** since im 23 almost 24.But Im very paranoid.So before I actually mod anything I reasearch the **** out of it.
The beauty of having less fd's on the road becuase some dumb kid bought one and screwed it all up is that our cars become much more sought after and that much rarer.Therefore raising our cars worth.Fine by me.
I really havent seen very many riced out rx7's.Maybe a few,But for the most part you really cant rice out a rx7 as you would with a civic.Unfortunatly now they make alteezas for our cars.God help us.

MR_Rick

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If you think about it Supra's get more riced out than FD's. Or is that just because there are more Supra's on the roads than FD's?

speeddemon7

not really.both fd's and mk4 supras are fairly unriceable.On another note suras from what I understand are actually rarer than 3rd gen rx7's.They may have been in production for 3 more years but they were low production runs.The car was 50 grand new I believe.

GSB

The price of the FD's should be rising in the UK soon as new laws have been passed to make importing harder into the UK, hence many import companies will inflate prices thus our fd prices will also rise

skunks

thats not rice, thats bad drivers/crappy owners/guys which are pretending to have a car. FD's still have enuf performance (when running well) to be not considered rice i think. if you put altezza lights on the rear or paint it neon green, that is just personal preference and they paid for it and you didnt so you dont really have a right to say anything just take care of your car and **** and let them do what they want, its their money. as long as it makes them happy, who the hell cares?

as i see it, as long as there are a few still around which can be bought... its fine with me.

speeddemon7

better hurry up and buy as many as you can gsb

GSB

Love to if i had the room / money to do so!!!!

Nice motors on this UK site www.linney.org

speeddemon7

i was serious.what better way to make a profit if you pick them up for cheap and once the new laws kick in you can make a decent profit.Why not right?

GSB

Seriously though mate i haven't got the room / money to do this at the mo.

If this was 3 months down the line then yea i could do and use my folks place to hold a few of them??

The prices haven't started going up yet but will be soon, as with the new law no cars imported can have any modifications whatsoever!!! so the modded cars have to be stripped down to basics then pass the required sva test for the UK roads and then have to be modded up again!!! so not worth some of the importers doing this???

I know UK sucks!!!!

zmarko

Happened with the DSM world, and now is beginning to happen with the FD. Sad thing too.

Wargasm

Bottom line is that when a car gets to be a bit older, the price falls and then "anyone" can buy it. I guess that's why you don't see many riced out Ferraris!

The thing that makes me mad is that it is ruining the image of my car. I hate it when I say to someone, "yeah I have an RX-7...", and they reply with something like, "yeah my little brother (17) has one and he's got some cool neons on it with a big wing... once he gets it painted it will look nice... " etc etc.

bajaman

Yeah, my point exactly. It happened with the FB and FC RX7s also. Is it just because of the lowering prices making these cars "affordable" now? You just don't see the same thing happening with say....older Porches (912, 911, 928 etc) or Jags or even ANY British car for that matter. Nor do most of the other European cars seem to befall this ugly fate. There aren't too many Audis or BMWs having this happen. Go hang out on those forums and you see MUCH more educated posts in general.
It sort of makes me want to put my car in storage for about 10 years and wait for the car to become even rarer before putting it back on the streets.

jimlab

Baja, are you referring to the generally ****-poor quality of posts these days and the steady increase in the number of people who know absolutely nothing about their cars (or cars in general, for that matter) and don't have the experience or knowledge to intelligently discuss them?

hardbodeez is a perfect example. The magazines, EPA window stickers, and two independent sources stated that the Z06 Corvette gets far better gas mileage than the FD, but he refused to believe it (magazines lie!) because he got decent (for an FD) gas mileage on one trip and "a big V8 couldn't possibly get good gas mileage". Instead of accepting the fact that it's the truth and learning something from the exchange, he chose to argue instead and it eventually degraded to the point that the thread was locked after he threatened to poke my eyes out or something equally juvenile.

Unfortunately, you'll just have to live with it, or sell your FD and move up the food chain to get away from them. Me, I choose to make the best of the situation and make their online experience a living hell, and if I can get them banned in the process, so much the better...

Dan Stevenson

I think the reason why this car will not end up as riced out compared to other sports car of the era is because of it less than stellar reliability. People who put who spend all that money on "accessories" and fail to maintain the important parts of the car will eventually blow the motor and sell the car off. Hopefully the car will end up in the hands of person who has the mechanical ability to maintain it (or at least the financial ability and who know a good shop).

c00lduke

I think the "problems" with the FD/Rotary Engine is really helping keep many ricers at bay. And yeah you might be able to get an FD for 9k but even then that is alot of money for most ricers. That might even be less then some newer stlye civics, neons, and cavaliers. Chances are that thier parents bought them\ handed them down a civic because it is safe a reliable. I really dont think that the FD will because a ricer car anytime soon do to the fact that modding them is pretty costly. Granted you always going to have a few but i really dont think they will last.

onefast3gen

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I think it has alot to do with the magazines. Also import racing is the biggest i have ever seen it around here. The kids know the rx-7 is a fast car cause they seen it in the movies or maybe went to the track and seen 1 go before so they buy one off someone who bought it a while back when it was new or newer and they try to put as much stuff as possible. also I dunno if its me but the fd is used in advertisement ads alot more now meguiars wax uses it now, there is a picture in every ad if you open up a magazine even if the place doesnt sell anything for the fd and i even seen a fd advertising some tire valve caps of like dice and soccer ***** in the gas station around here.

edv

Seems to me that a 'rice' car is one that is relatively low-powered, and stays that way despite a bunch of 'look-fast' or 'look-stupid' bolt-ons.
The FD starts off as a relatively fast car and has been somewhat immune to this disease.
Nonetheless, the ugliest FD I ever saw had the body-kit/19-in wheels/wing/etc. But I'm sure it was a fast car anyway.

generalchaos

alright guys im only 19, but i'll let you know how this works from my point of view.

I myself wanting a rx-7. well I have a dsm (95 talon TSi awd) was hard to find, but I liked it because it was a budget race car (didnt have lot of money at the time) looked decent, and was rare, and an import for that matter.

Now I dont want this car....why? well I used to want an rx7, but they used to cost 25k at the best, so there was no way. now they are only 10-13k, I can afford this, and my insurance is rape already and an rx7 hardly costs more. Am I going to rice it out? god no. will I take religious care of it? of coarse. I research everything possible before I even touch/buy a car, to make sure I can do the best for it.

DSM's have their problems just like FD's. and most ricers arent capable of taking that responsibility on. My town now blooms of DSMs. I NEVER see a dsm anywhere except my town. everyone seen my buddy danny had a 12.5 second 1gen and thought it was so great, so they all buy them now. But guess what? they dont take care of them, or research the proper way to do anything, so they are diminishing VERY fast due to blowing up, and idiots driving them like they have a formula 1 race car, and then complain and want me to fix it for them. heres how to fix it....DONT DRIVE LIKE AN IDIOT 24/7!!! So if these guys see me with a fast FD, they better not even waste their money because they wont cool it, tune or anything and blow the seals real quick.....hell they dont even do that on their dsms so I know they wont on a fd.

and why do I want an fd? its what ive been looking for this whole time and didnt realise it. I wanted a fast import 2 seater that looked nice (well the front sucks but with that lip/splitter you all have its nice) and was rare. I used to look at things like s2000's but it just wasnt cutting it. I fell in love with the NSX but good luck buying that. Only a test drive will really tell me if the rx-7 is truly for me, but I want to take a step up the ladder in my dream cars.....and I cant afford a 2002 WS6 trans-am, and not sure I really want to. And a "finished" rx-7 and "finished" dsm of my plans dont differ to much in price (going all out) so why not.

So I wouldnt worry about it guys, the ricers can have their fun for a while but it wont last, and yes the car is getting cheaper so people like me can get them, but I know what im getting myself into. and anycar will have its sad owners of rice....even ferraris.

generalchaos

oh yea and IMO body kits and things are ok to me (and many others) if the car has the ***** to back it up, so yea this car is pretty immune, unlike a civic....as long as you dont have a big alluminum wing and stupid vinyl all over it.