Extremely rich, runs Bad
#27
Rotorally Challenged
![](https://www.rx7club.com/images/misc/10_year_icon.png)
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Southern Illinois
Posts: 1,512
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by cowsniperRX7
ive checked that map sensor around 45 times. Its good.
ive checked that map sensor around 45 times. Its good.
Not the hoses-----change the sensor itself, you could have fried the sensor or the cable. What you described in the other thread is EXACTLY how a malfunctioning MAP sensor looks----Datalogit chart will show a flatline.
Try someone else's map sensor. If not check the wiring
have you done a compression test.
#28
Rotary Freak
![](https://www.rx7club.com/images/misc/15_year_icon.png)
I hope your PFC isn't fried. I just did similar thing last night I actually hooked up my bat erminals backwards and blew the 120amp main fuse! Yeah, I know I'm a DUMBASS...
cowsniperRX7, Do you have a datalogit? Maybe your maps in the PFC got erased or corrupted due to the electrical mishap. If that's possible, I'd do a caompare of your maps before and after.
John
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by cowsniperRX7
. ...The cable touched the main power wire coming off the alternator and sparked and bured through. (I was going to disconnect the battery before snipping the wires.) I thought i had taped this up very well because i had seen this type of thing happen before and wanted to avoid it (oh well too late now)...
.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cowsniperRX7, Do you have a datalogit? Maybe your maps in the PFC got erased or corrupted due to the electrical mishap. If that's possible, I'd do a caompare of your maps before and after.
John
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by cowsniperRX7
. ...The cable touched the main power wire coming off the alternator and sparked and bured through. (I was going to disconnect the battery before snipping the wires.) I thought i had taped this up very well because i had seen this type of thing happen before and wanted to avoid it (oh well too late now)...
.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#29
Rear Admiral
![](https://www.rx7club.com/images/misc/15_year_icon.png)
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,685
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Jeff: I havent yet checked the compression. It runs fine while i am driving it and i accelerate mildly. I will try to swap my map sensor out for Bens.
jpandes: the PFC is not the problem. I swapped out my PFC with another one and it did the same thing. My maps were not erased.
jpandes: the PFC is not the problem. I swapped out my PFC with another one and it did the same thing. My maps were not erased.
#34
Rotary Freak
![](https://www.rx7club.com/images/misc/15_year_icon.png)
There is one guy on the forum that had his car literaly filled with gas because his one of his injectors was grounded "on".
Could you have pinched something while you were under the UIM and shorted something under there?
Could you have pinched something while you were under the UIM and shorted something under there?
#36
Rear Admiral
![](https://www.rx7club.com/images/misc/15_year_icon.png)
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,685
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally posted by teamstealth
That guy was from STL and i saw it first hand. It's definitely not that because he can start the car and drive it around no prob...its just SSSOOO rich.
That guy was from STL and i saw it first hand. It's definitely not that because he can start the car and drive it around no prob...its just SSSOOO rich.
I actually did check for that. I looked inside the piping and nothing was full of gas. It didnt even smell like gas.
#37
Rotary Enthusiast
![](https://www.rx7club.com/images/misc/10_year_icon.png)
so lets recap ,running rich:
injectors
fpr
ubstruction in fuel line
did you do the compression check ?
did you try the stock computer already ?
map sensor
is tps calibrated right (or did it move)?
i think that should be basically the list you should go through,i am not familliar with the pfc (is it a piggy back or full stand alone),if its a piggy back use only youre stock computer if it keeps screwing ,you might have fucked the stock ecu up
injectors
fpr
ubstruction in fuel line
did you do the compression check ?
did you try the stock computer already ?
map sensor
is tps calibrated right (or did it move)?
i think that should be basically the list you should go through,i am not familliar with the pfc (is it a piggy back or full stand alone),if its a piggy back use only youre stock computer if it keeps screwing ,you might have fucked the stock ecu up
#38
If the PFC is showing atmospheric pressure under all run/load conditions then it's either not plumbed up right or it's failed or the wiring is messed up.
To confirm this, hook up a hand pump and pressure gage to the MAP sensor and watch the output voltage (key on, motor off) to see if it varies when you change the pressure.
To confirm this, hook up a hand pump and pressure gage to the MAP sensor and watch the output voltage (key on, motor off) to see if it varies when you change the pressure.
#41
Rotor Shaped Blood Cells
![](https://www.rx7club.com/images/misc/05_year_icon.png)
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: San Diego
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
wait, my car is having very similar problems. Although, I am street ported, and completely stock otherwise. From what people say, that seems to be the problem because I dont have a fuel computer, but I was under the impression that having the stock ECU wont make my exhaust glow red, and bog the hell out at low RPMS, and respond worse than a civic... Let alone waste gas like its goin outta style. There is a check valve that goes to the MAP sensor, and has an arrow on it. Does this thing flow both ways? is there a proper direction for it to flow? And where is the proper location for its vacuum line? its hooked up under the manifold, Im just not sure if its the right place for it...I dont mean to steal this thread, but it sounds like a lot of you guys are able to diagnose problems rather well. I made another thread about my problem here, but suggestions ranged in compression tests, to boost gauges, to getting a PFC because of the port. Can someone categorize the information in a clear and concise manner?
#44
Rotor Shaped Blood Cells
![](https://www.rx7club.com/images/misc/05_year_icon.png)
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: San Diego
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
ok, so my next question is, just replace the thing? or is there some way to figure out if its bad? I'm not even sure its vacuum line is hooked up to the right place, and the little check valve is faced in the right direction, etc etc. Help?
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
82streetracer
Haltech Forum
11
03-11-19 05:34 PM
jetlude
Single Turbo RX-7's
4
08-18-15 04:53 PM