Dyno Results!
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Dyno Results!
Went to the dyno for the first time tonight. My mods are downpipe and RB dual-tip cat-back.
For the first run (hard to see), I had a boost leak (coupler on y-pipe to intercooler pipe had slipped a little). The next two runs took place after fixing the coupler.
The boost pattern for the last two runs was 10.5-8-10 but my boost fell to 7 psi after 6000 rpm. So, I imagine I should be making at least 10-15 more hp. Notice how rich the car runs on the stock ecu.
Now, I just have to figure out why my boost is falling to 7 after 6000 rpm and regain those lost horsepower.
BTW, thanks to the guys at ATP. I recommend their shop to anyone.
For the first run (hard to see), I had a boost leak (coupler on y-pipe to intercooler pipe had slipped a little). The next two runs took place after fixing the coupler.
The boost pattern for the last two runs was 10.5-8-10 but my boost fell to 7 psi after 6000 rpm. So, I imagine I should be making at least 10-15 more hp. Notice how rich the car runs on the stock ecu.
Now, I just have to figure out why my boost is falling to 7 after 6000 rpm and regain those lost horsepower.
BTW, thanks to the guys at ATP. I recommend their shop to anyone.
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what do stock FDs dyno at? I have the same mods, downpipe and catback and curious what I would get also. what's actually involved? do you sit in the car and just give it gas in 4th gear?
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im gonna dyno soon and im pretty much the same deal but sub out cat back for intake
im gonna dyno soon and im pretty much the same deal but sub out cat back for intake
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Re: what was the temp ..
Originally posted by amp
a healthy stock FD runs 210-215rwhp...
estimation of 245-250rwhp for dp and cb seems somehat high....
a healthy stock FD runs 210-215rwhp...
estimation of 245-250rwhp for dp and cb seems somehat high....
I don't think that estimation is high, I'm making 240 at only 7 psi.
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Originally posted by ttb
what's actually involved? do you sit in the car and just give it gas in 4th gear?
what's actually involved? do you sit in the car and just give it gas in 4th gear?
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Re: Re: what was the temp ..
Originally posted by rynberg
I don't think that estimation is high, I'm making 240 at only 7 psi.
I don't think that estimation is high, I'm making 240 at only 7 psi.
I'll stick with the butt-dyno.
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thanks for the info. sounds easy, think i'll wait until i resolve my 13psi boost problem to avoid blowing up my engine. i remember hearing that each dyno is different so you shouldn't think of the absolute #s are 100% accurate.
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Originally posted by Zach McAfee
At Rosen Autosport here in Richmond they let you drive the car on the dyno. It's fun experience to let it all hang out and make some noise indoors!
At Rosen Autosport here in Richmond they let you drive the car on the dyno. It's fun experience to let it all hang out and make some noise indoors!
although a bit nerve racking about overboosting!
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what was the temp ..
Originally posted by rynberg
Actually, I though more like 215-220 rwhp for stock.
Actually, I though more like 215-220 rwhp for stock.
Originally posted by rynberg
I don't think that estimation is high, I'm making 240 at only 7 psi.
I don't think that estimation is high, I'm making 240 at only 7 psi.
to include... in addition to your DP/CB... a MP/PFC/Pulleys/Ypipe at 10psi...
if 250rwhp is the norm for DP and CB....hmmnnn
although the tuner seemed content with the output in my last dyno session...indicated no issues on the car.
too conservative on the tuning i assume ?
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how much did ATP charge and did they only give you 3 runs??? Also, i think they should let you drive your own car. It is YOUR car afterall and it doesnt' hurt their machinery or anything if you drive your own car.
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Originally posted by gmonsen
rynberg: nice numbers. the most obvious thing to me is that the AFR dropped below 10 at the point where you would (and do) make the most power. you are leaving at least 10+ (maybe much more) hp on the table there. you should be running just over 11 the whole way. -gordon
rynberg: nice numbers. the most obvious thing to me is that the AFR dropped below 10 at the point where you would (and do) make the most power. you are leaving at least 10+ (maybe much more) hp on the table there. you should be running just over 11 the whole way. -gordon
I look forward to getting a stand-alone ecu to raise the A/F to 11:1. And to get rid of that damn 3k hesitation.
Zerobanger: It was good meeting you and checking out your car. Black FDs look mean.
It was definitely cool to hear our cars go WOT in 4th from 2k to 7.5k rpm. That was the best part of the whole dyno experience.
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Originally posted by RX7Elmo
how much did ATP charge and did they only give you 3 runs??? Also, i think they should let you drive your own car. It is YOUR car afterall and it doesnt' hurt their machinery or anything if you drive your own car.
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how much did ATP charge and did they only give you 3 runs??? Also, i think they should let you drive your own car. It is YOUR car afterall and it doesnt' hurt their machinery or anything if you drive your own car.
Danny
I actually preferred to let them drive the car. It was cool listening to the exhaust from outside of the car and watching the rubber couplers expand at WOT.
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Originally posted by rynberg
Thanks Gordon. Yeah, I was surprised when the A/F ratios came up. More proof of what Wade Langham's testing has shown -- the stock ecu has enough fuel to handle a lot of mods at the stock boost level.
I look forward to getting a stand-alone ecu to raise the A/F to 11:1. And to get rid of that damn 3k hesitation.
Zerobanger: It was good meeting you and checking out your car. Black FDs look mean.
It was definitely cool to hear our cars go WOT in 4th from 2k to 7.5k rpm. That was the best part of the whole dyno experience.
Thanks Gordon. Yeah, I was surprised when the A/F ratios came up. More proof of what Wade Langham's testing has shown -- the stock ecu has enough fuel to handle a lot of mods at the stock boost level.
I look forward to getting a stand-alone ecu to raise the A/F to 11:1. And to get rid of that damn 3k hesitation.
Zerobanger: It was good meeting you and checking out your car. Black FDs look mean.
It was definitely cool to hear our cars go WOT in 4th from 2k to 7.5k rpm. That was the best part of the whole dyno experience.
It was cool meeting you and doing the dyno, i'm going back soon as you can guess....Its nice to see another FD too, specially one as clean as yours.
And yes WOT at 7500 rpms rock! I have been analyzing my dyno sheet, I scanned it, but I am not sure how to post my scan as a picture rather than a link, most forums do it automatically, but here it always shows up as a link, how did you post yours?
Also, when you get your boost problem resolved, I see solid 250 HP for you. Did you find it odd that my horsepower peaks around 5700 and holds till the redline?
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Originally posted by rynberg
Actually, they gave us a really good deal. $65 for three runs with wideband. They gave us all the time we wanted between runs to make adjustments, fix leaky couplers, etc. I highly recommend their shop.
I actually preferred to let them drive the car. It was cool listening to the exhaust from outside of the car and watching the rubber couplers expand at WOT.
Actually, they gave us a really good deal. $65 for three runs with wideband. They gave us all the time we wanted between runs to make adjustments, fix leaky couplers, etc. I highly recommend their shop.
I actually preferred to let them drive the car. It was cool listening to the exhaust from outside of the car and watching the rubber couplers expand at WOT.
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Originally posted by gmonsen
btw, i did some dyno pulls last night up at KD Rotary. small syno room without venting. ambient air temps were about 103 and my intake temps hit 147 degrees. had to stop. but, hit 350 hp at 10 psi running fairly rich (well below 11 AFR's). but, i'm getting my low end up where i want it. the sound is always deafening even with ear plugs! going back tonight to try a few runs at 18 psi and see what it makes, but don;t know if the weather and dave's schedule will allow it... -gordon
btw, i did some dyno pulls last night up at KD Rotary. small syno room without venting. ambient air temps were about 103 and my intake temps hit 147 degrees. had to stop. but, hit 350 hp at 10 psi running fairly rich (well below 11 AFR's). but, i'm getting my low end up where i want it. the sound is always deafening even with ear plugs! going back tonight to try a few runs at 18 psi and see what it makes, but don;t know if the weather and dave's schedule will allow it... -gordon
BTW, David, I posted my dyno as an attachment in the Test 51 section and then linked it to this post. Soon, I'll have my website up and won't have to deal with it.
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Dyno results with similar setup
Got my car dynoed last week:
88F sea level
K&N drop in w. stock modified airbox
HKS DP
Hi Flow Cat
RB Dual
Pettit ecu
10-12 boost
260 rwhp
221 torque
Tuner said these are pretty good results. I was hoping for 280, oh well.
88F sea level
K&N drop in w. stock modified airbox
HKS DP
Hi Flow Cat
RB Dual
Pettit ecu
10-12 boost
260 rwhp
221 torque
Tuner said these are pretty good results. I was hoping for 280, oh well.
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Hello, I added your dyno numbers to my "dyno estimator" or whatever you want to call it at:
http://www.catenet.net/dyno.php
Enjoy.
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http://www.catenet.net/dyno.php
Enjoy.
B
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Originally posted by RX7Elmo
how much did ATP charge and did they only give you 3 runs??? Also, i think they should let you drive your own car. It is YOUR car afterall and it doesnt' hurt their machinery or anything if you drive your own car.
Danny
how much did ATP charge and did they only give you 3 runs??? Also, i think they should let you drive your own car. It is YOUR car afterall and it doesnt' hurt their machinery or anything if you drive your own car.
Danny
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Originally posted by Wargasm
Hello, I added your dyno numbers to my "dyno estimator" or whatever you want to call it at:
http://www.catenet.net/dyno.php
Enjoy.
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Hello, I added your dyno numbers to my "dyno estimator" or whatever you want to call it at:
http://www.catenet.net/dyno.php
Enjoy.
B
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How weird.... I'm only getting 234 hp and 229 lbs/tq with a Greddy exhaust, K&N, HKS dp, and s-afc
with a 10-12-12 pattern. I have the same sub-10 fuel ratio prob like u..
with a 10-12-12 pattern. I have the same sub-10 fuel ratio prob like u..