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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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are there any websites that tell you specificly what and where to look for stuff? (engine wise)
Check the things that Bacon mentioned. The manuals have pretty good step-by-step processes for just about everything:

http://www.iluvmyrx7.com/Technical_I...ice_manual.htm

Also, check here for some more info:

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/how-to.html
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Old Feb 20, 2002 | 10:49 PM
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You don't need to let it sit to warm up... Most people agree that's bad.

What I do is start the car, wait at least 30 seconds (most mechanics say it takes about 30 to 45 seconds to cycle oil through most motors) or until the idle settles a little bit.. Then drive without boosting until the car is at operating temperature.
This IS the correct way to get a car to operating temperature. Wait 30-45 secs and just stay below 4k or so until the water temp is in the nominal range.
Letting it idle at start up until the thermostat opens is silly and takes MUCH longer for coolant to be properly circulated...

-Kib

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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You can drive the 7 as hard as any if not harder. The engine is very versitile. The only thing is that you have to take care of it. I mean real good care. The rotary requires more maintenance, but will prove to be a good piece of equipment if taken care of properly.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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Gir had the question about starting the engine and turning it off before it reaching operating temp. Due to the rich fuel mixture at cold start the plugs can foul with raw fuel upon shutdown,so not a good idea to pull it out of the garage cold then shut it down to wash it. Unflooding it is a real PITA.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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Yeah Ive read a few posts on the PITA flooding procedure.
Im just hoping I can keep my wife from just moving it real quick
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 11:12 AM
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Thanks for all the posts guys, Im reassured again and as soon as I find "the one" Ill be set
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by KibagamiR2


This IS the correct way to get a car to operating temperature. Wait 30-45 secs and just stay below 4k or so until the water temp is in the nominal range.
Letting it idle at start up until the thermostat opens is silly and takes MUCH longer for coolant to be properly circulated...

-Kib
How come? I've always let it sit to warm up. The FD does not seem to like it when you just start and go.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 11:42 AM
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How come? I've always let it sit to warm up. The FD does not seem to like it when you just start and go.
You might wanna blip the gas.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by Toadman
Gir had the question about starting the engine and turning it off before it reaching operating temp. Due to the rich fuel mixture at cold start the plugs can foul with raw fuel upon shutdown,so not a good idea to pull it out of the garage cold then shut it down to wash it. Unflooding it is a real PITA.
I cold stopped it a few times and no problems yet, guess I'm lucky. Of course I wont risk doing it again.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 11:46 AM
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You might wanna blip the gas.
If you are talking about the 3k rpm warmup, you can simply start the FD in gear and it will not do that. What I am unsure of is letting it warm up for just 30-45 seconds before driving it.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Mister7


If you are talking about the 3k rpm warmup, you can simply start the FD in gear and it will not do that. What I am unsure of is letting it warm up for just 30-45 seconds before driving it.
You just want to give the car enough time to get the oil cycled through the engine. Most mechanics agree that it take about 30-45 seconds to get oil cycled.

After that, it's much better on the car if it's moving while it's warming up, just don't jump on the boost until the car is at operating temperature.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:00 PM
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I've always wondered about driving the car when it's cold. I was under the impression that you don't want to boost until the engine's warm, but with that damn tiny turbo it's about impossible to keep it from whirring. So I just use no more than quarter throttle and shift before 4k. Best I can tell, the ECU actually limits boost to around 6psi for you (at least on the primary) until it's happy that the car is warm. Pretty cool! Plus i religiously drive easy before turning the car off. I think that's actually the more important thing. I may be extreme on this, but it's worth it to keep those turbos boosting like I love!
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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yes I apply the 30-60 secs. rules too.
Then drive the car smoothly.
After all it's just like warming up your girl in bed before getting reading for the real business you don't wanna get into hard stuff too first or something will break but if you do nothing you're risking behing left on your own too
think of it this way, alright?
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:32 PM
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hahaha, excellent analogy
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:38 PM
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Ah, now I understand. Instead of warming it up for a full 7 minutes, I will warm it up for 1 minute, then drive it smoothly!
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Yeah, that's what I've always heard and done. Let it idle while checking mirrors/tires/ putting stuff behind seats, then drive easy until the temp stars coming up. Then drive it like you stole it!
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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Yeah I agree on the warmup procedure, let it idle for 30-45, check oil pressure, then just drive easy until you hit 170F or so. I've never noticed the car driving "funny" when its cold, although I have this thing where the idle can't decide if it wants to go to the "warmup" high idle (1500) or to the normal idle, right where it would normally transistion, it will hunt between the two a couple of times before finally deciding its warm and idleing normally.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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well I've heard that on most Mazdas when the idle get sfunny it can be caused by some air leak... so I'd check for that if U were you... just my $0.02 though
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 06:17 PM
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How come? I've always let it sit to warm up. The FD does not seem to like it when you just start and go.
Hmm must be just my car.. however mine does not act funny when cold. I do run synthetic oil in my engine however, and flow characteristics of synth oil is usually better than mineral oil, especially when cold. I keep my engine below 4k during the warm up period which usually lasts about 3 mins constantly moving. After the thermostat opens the water temp quickly rises to normal levels and water is being circulated throughout the engine warming the rest of the parts along with it, including turbos. I have been reading Corky Bell's book "Maximum Boost" of late and he makes quite a few helpful and insightful points on turbo engine care.

-Kib
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Old Feb 23, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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**** maintainence yes
Crawl under your car often look for any tiny leaks oil or water.
Check all bolts lower turbo hoses ect.
Most everyone here drives their car hard thats what there for
I have over 30 1/4 miles runs on mine and nothing other than 5th gear syncro has yet to break and that was only because of missed 3rd gear shifts prior to a short shifter install.
I also did all the prevent stuff before any failures occured.
However my car has only 31k so....
This also could be the year something breaks you never know..................
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Old Feb 23, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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After all it's just like warming up your girl in bed before getting reading for the real business you don't wanna get into hard stuff too first or something will break but if you do nothing you're risking behing left on your own too
think of it this way, alright?



so that's why i keep breaking those stupid latex things ...

seriously speaking, after the warmup and normal operating temp, it's *****-to-the-wall almost every time i get in her (no pun intended ... well, maybe that was). course, i had the silicone hose job done, so i don't worry about popping a hose much anymore.

strict, regular maintenance and i haven't had too many problems.
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