Drifting is good for the rest of us.

it keeps the parts flowing.

and FD value up.

 

Well i do see a few rx7s drifting at drift events. Calvin coming to mind big time. But ive also seen reza at drift events even the ones in socal. Im trying to join more drift events but they hold em in socal and thats just too far for me. When they had a drift day in the bay i attended and so did 5 other rx7s (3Fcs 3FDs). Aslong as you do the practice drifting in a safe environment and under supervision you should be fine.

 

i wouldnt dift a 7 unless your one of the Takashi Brothers

 

that would be awesome being one of them!

 

The driver of the Apexi RX-7 drift car is a great driver. I've seen those videos and it takes a lot of seat time and skill to drive the car like that.

Get a cheaper car since it'll be less expensive to repair.

Find a good place like an abandoned airstrip or big parking lot to practice.

You can imagine it's easier to get the car to drift when you realize it's about shifting the weight of the car around. It's not quite the same, but I've been testing the theory with go karts.

J

 

i've decided to stick with my 5th gen celica and swap the engine to the 3sgte instead of getting another car. i've gotten to attached to this car to sell it after having it for only like 7 months.

 

i'm the only FD on the east coast that drifts i believe and i have YET to break ANYTHING. my car is setup to be reliable for drag racing though soooo if i can't break it drag racing i can't break it drifting unless i smash into something. keep in mind i SUCK AT DRIFTING too

 

yea...its hard to learn to do drifting in FD if you have lead foot. That is my problem. I tend to put too much power then it spun.

 

Good to see some people that are pro-drift and anti-drift for the RX7 in the same thread, w/o resorting to flaming and such

It's been good to read into this thread some... For a while I've been thinking about getting an RX7.. But know I won't be doing that til after college. A friend of mine showed me this thread... Its good to know some pros and cons about this ahead of time.

Despite knowing I'll probably sound stupid for restating things... It seems the RX-7 is very good for drifting, but takes a lot more skill and precision than the other cars. And more money when you're talking about the FD... But like another said, it's good to be able to drift w/ something most others can't, or won't try to drift with.

I've been wondering on learning to drift when I get a 7, or something other than my current car (it's not bad.. very reliable.... excellent shape and all... I just don't think I'd wanna try much of this with it and all....)... But know nowhere around here where I could try to do it. Seems on the west coast you guys have a lot of abandoned airstrips and huge parking lots you can drive like maniacs on :p Course, fans of stuff like that are more centered on the west coast anyway... So you'd hear more about it anyway.

GAH! Time to shut up.

 

DO NOT BUY AN FD IF YOU INTEND TO DRIFT!!! Especially if you're intending to learn how to drift!
How rediculous is it to spend $14,000 on a car that won't even drift as well as a $2000 240sx stock for stock. Not to mention, you'll have to spend lots of money to maintain it (assuming you don't crash, which you WILL), and...no matter what you do, it will still never be as good as a modded 240sx. Tell me all you want about the A'pexi FD, I saw it live in person and I know for a fact it takes a CONSIDERABLE amount of money and talent to make it perform like that. Rent some Option videos and see how many FD's you find drifting!

If you really want an FD, you'll have to put aside about $20,000 alltogether for reliability, tires, suspension, etc. etc. You can get a 240sx with suspension and tires for about $4000 and slowly mod it as you gain experience. It truly is the best car to buy if you want to drift, bar-none.

Vosko: Don't drift your car, you'll just crash it and throw away all that money you spent modding it to be what it is. Set it up for road racing/auto-x if you want to have fun. If you're serious about drift....BUY a 240sx!!

:]Tenzo[: That pic of the FD in your thread doesn't look like it's drifting to me...

Also, the FD doesn't share the Mr2's handling characterics because of the front-mid-engine design. the MR2 motor is directly over the rear wheels which requires a greater amount of energy to brake loose and when it does, it snaps out quicker, it also gains traction quickly at the end of a drift which is equally hard to control. It may seem like it's the same because of it's handling characterics, but it's the suspension setup that's responsible for that, not the engine location.

Any car can be drifted if it's RWD...the FD surely can, but it takes a great amount of skill and money. If you're thinking about drifting DON'T BUY THIS CAR!

 

Drifting is awesome. Me and a few other 7's in DE practice everynow and then, but on stock suspension it doesn't make much sence trying. So we pretty much just stopped untill we have the appropriate setup. I have been thinking about getting a S13 240 for some time now. It would be a better platform to learn on. As for Vosko drifting.......dude, I've seen your videos.... uncontrolled 360's is not drifting.

 

if you're good at it, then it doesnt matter if you're a great driver/drifter

 

do you have any more vids of yourself? I think i have dled almost all your vids and have only seen you complete one turn fairly well. I think you have the same problem most of us fd/fc guys which are starting out have, our cars are very twitchy (they want to correct too fast or will instantly spin out), have wayyy to much grip in the rear, have way too much power in the rear (throttle control is weird on a turbo car if your not good, it also really sucks to not have a revlimiter, at least if your still using the stock ecu...), have a weird/bad gearing for beginner drift (if you ever watch a lot of D1 stuff where the panspeed/cwest fd, apex fd, marrionet fd run often with inside camara shots, they use 3rd gear on fast corners and 2nd gear most of the time, that means we as beginners should not be breakign out of 1st or 2nd at best and in 1st you run out of revs very fast and 2nd for us, we dont got the torque to keep our slides going), and dont have enuf camber/caster (i never saw a FD come with some thing like -4 or more camber/Positive __ caster). how are you starting your slides anyways? can you do 180 degree/jturns easily with in 2 narrow lanes? download drift bible and the nomuken lessons to get better.

As for 240's, its really amazing how easy it is to control them, you just have to get in to a slide, let go of the steering wheel, get on the gas, catch the steering wheel after it counters itself and then let off the gas a bit turn a bit more in to the turn and let go of the steering wheel and get on the gas again to do choku's. I know cuz just came back from riding in Matto's 240 (he has been in nearly every magazine which has covered Hawaii drifting except for the driftshowoff comp. cuz he never did that one; He has even been in option mags 2X already as well as drifting tengoku<==== not sure if that is spelled right, its suppose to be school in japanese). He was doing 55-65mph choku's on Hawaii Raceway Park's narrow lanes. (Hawaii race way park is more like a enclosed 2 lane street rather then a actual race course, the widest it gets is about 4-5 lanes down the 1/4 mile. there is no runout like in mainland courses so you pretty much be good enuf to stay in 2 lanes for all of the turns, chronos has ridden with matto as well and can testify to how narrow HRP is and how good you must be). You can't really do this in a stock FD, i have tried and failed many many many times. oh yeah, stock fd's have to turn much more then 240's do, when they turn their steering wheels about 180 degrees, we must turn about 360 degrees in order to get the same results... did i mention 240's total turning angle is a lot more then ours is stock (it truly is amazing what angles 240s can recover from).

oh and lastly, do you ever get sideways on the street? all the videos of yourself are in a huge parking lots and when you do that, there is very little chance you'll brake/hit anything. I think when most of us say that you'll brake something, it ususally means running in to something like a tree or lightpost. when you actually go in to a slide, there is not very much stress on the car, i think i put more wear on the car when stuck in traffic (obviously not on the tires but on the powertrain).

 

any movies?

 

Yeah a few, but they aren't on my computer yet.

 

well i have drifted two FD's and my mom's miata. i am learning..... we have an event every month at englishtown. i think i'm gonna borrow another car to drift wednesday again

i honestly had no idea what i was doing and still don't but everytime i went out i tried something new. the only time i was actually drifting there is no video of it lol

 

I have never tried drifting. It looks like it could be fun with an older car that wasn't that important to me. I would never try it with my FD.

I like to drive the FD fast, using techniques to get thru the turns in the least amount of time. Drifting isn't fast.

 

i have seen cars do 60MPH drifts a few inches from concrete barriers ITS AMAZING. there is no way in hell i can do it but one of my friends is pretty good with his S13.... i just go out and have fun. the last event i had my FD we had a burnout contest and i smoked everyone out

 

isn't the FD the anti-drift car?

 

oh god, dont turn this thread in to one of those drift VS grip thread, it will just get locked again. ever heard of "if ya dont got anything good to say... don't say it"? nobody even asked/argued if drifting was fast or not, we just wanna talk about something we happen to have intreste in.

Plus you have never even tried it, what are you a ***** or something? find a large parking lot and go have some fun. dont be one of those guys which have never ever learned how to control a car just incase it gets a bit tail happy and crashs his beloved FD into a wall. Hell their even worst then riceboys cuz at least riceboys don't crash FD's!

 

FD likes drifting

FC's DON'T! FC's are grip cars. i had my old T2 on a road course and couldn't get the *** end out at all!

i did buy 89 T2 that will be my race car once i fix it up

 

in a way yes, in a way no. it all depends on what you set it up for, what kinda track your on and what you wanna do. plus, drift does teach you what to do when you stupidly or accidently push your car pass the limits of grip. Every try to push a FD hard in the rain or on gravel? You'll get sideways very fast, especially if your FD is running well/putting out even stock amounts of power!

 

oi, ever see wendel's FC? his so called blackbird (chalkboard FC) gets some crazy *** angles (some which are nearly = to some 240's) because of his steering modifictions. It's all about the driver. Also, have you ever seen Hariguchi FC <==== omg my spelling of japanese names is horrible! His yellow&blue checker pattern FC gets amazingly sideways (wayyyy more then 90% of the cars i have seen even more then most of the 240's, S13, S14 or S15).

 

P.S. You had better have smoked everyone with how much power your putting down nice car btw

 

What's your problem? I said it looks like fun!

I have been autocross racing for more than 20 years, winning numerous season championships in my 79 CSP RX7 (sold). I have taken many "top time of the day" honors as well. I have also raced in many time trial events. I can drive.

Maybe you should take a moment before calling someone a *****. The topic of the thread is weather you think its a good idea to drift an FD. For me, it isn't a good idea.

You owe me an apology!