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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:37 PM
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dp installation.....bigggg mistake!

i broke the 2 upper studs when removing the dp, the first one i can reach it with a vise-grip but the second one.. broke inside. Now my question is. Is it possible to extract this stud without removing the turbos or any major part?
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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ouch.youre in for a long ardous process.I believe its impossible to tap the stud that broke clean off without getting mettal shavings inside the turbo housing.From what I hear removal of the turbos is neccesary.as for the other stud.I had the same problem.My father in law heated the stud up several times with a blowtorch and kept twisting it with pliers and vice grips.Eventually the thing broke loose.When I say loose i mean it barely moved in either direction.After that I sprayed penetrating oil on it and got some vice grips.I worked on that stud for 2 to 3 hours just twisting it back and forthe untill it finally came out.
In your case though I would just save your self another headache and remove the turbos.Cut the other stud and tap both of them.
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Old Nov 10, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by speeddemon7
My father in law heated the stud up several times with a blowtorch and kept twisting it with pliers and vice grips.Eventually the thing broke loose.When I say loose i mean it barely moved in either direction.After that I sprayed penetrating oil on it and got some vice grips.I worked on that stud for 2 to 3 hours just twisting it back and forthe untill it finally came out.
In your case though I would just save your self another headache and remove the turbos.Cut the other stud and tap both of them.
that works VERY well... but considering your arm and hand size/type of vice grips/size of torch you have.... if you're small... no problemo... if you're big.... (dramatic entrance)....

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and remove the turbos.Cut the other stud and tap both of them.
=((((
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 12:03 AM
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The same thing happened to me. I just ended up going non-sequential and porting my wastegate while the turbos were out.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 12:32 AM
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you guys have any install pics or other notes about the installation?
i expect it to be pretty much straight forward but some pointers may make it a lot easier.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:52 AM
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Drown the damn bastard in a can or two of PB and it should loosen her up more than the average pornstar.......
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 03:49 AM
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Yes, it is possible to remove them on the car and without pulling the turbos. I have done it successfully. As mentioned elsewhere, it is very time consuming; so plan on spending the day. If you're careful, there will be no collateral damage!
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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Yes, it is possible to remove them on the car and without pulling the turbos. I have done it successfully. As mentioned elsewhere, it is very time consuming; so plan on spending the day.
If it takes an entire day you may as well pull the turbos and do it right. I removed/replaced mine in just a few hours.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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ok, well maybe there's a solution....i just bought a dremel with a 90degree head and some extractor kit. I tried to drill from the bottom of the car and i wasn't able to see clearly...so now i will have to remove the Y pipe and i think i'll be ok. I really really dont want to remove the turbos coz all the bolts in this area took to much heat and seems very fragile. I have also a plan B...call Jesse James to fix it!!
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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Once the y-pipe is off there is lots more room. It may do the trick for you if you have a right angle drive.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Yeah hope that will work for you. That turbo removal gets expensive doesn't Damon.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 04:27 PM
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I had that problem, but I was in the process of going non sequential..... .vice grips plus a long pipe got it out.... god damn I love leverage
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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yeah, I would drill it out as well...
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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Yep,"possibly" you can take the stud out without removing the turbos,but its so f*time consuming,that at the end you'll regret it.I was at same boat with you 6 months ago.I broke one stud,while i was trying to install the dp(i had to remove the dp to drill it for the EGT sensor).I had already removed the turbo 3 times(lotsa experience :-)),but i tried to go the easy way(big mistake).After 6 hours,and one step before suicide,i decided to remove the turbos.It took me 3 hours to remove,clean all studs,and install everything back....Its clear to me that with the FD the "easy way"becomes the "hard way",and vice versa....
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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I recommend pulling the turbos. You'll already need new bolts (since a couple broke) and getting them out of the manifold will be a bitch without lots of access. Pulling the turbos isn't a nightmare, just a little time consuming and many more heated/sticky bolts. Get some copper-anti-seize to make sure on reassembly you're not setting up for more of the same.

Definitely pull the y-pipe to give yourself some room if you try to extract it in place.

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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well...the nightmare starts now. I will keep you in touch
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Personally I don't have any first hand experience with this...I had my Mech R&R the dp...He broke one stud and aparently they had some tool that can take out a broken stud. So while he had to order another stud he just replaced all of them. Hope all goes well man!
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