Downpipes?
08-21-04, 08:59 PM
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Downpipes?
Wouldnt putting a downpipe on the car throw off the "balance" of everything or will it help the car that much more? Also I'm wanting to keep it quiet as I can, dont mid having a nice purr but nothing to loud.
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08-21-04, 09:02 PM
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No. You won't throw anything off "balance" with just a downpipe. It's actually considered a reliability modification, due to the reduction in engine bay heat after removal.
08-21-04, 09:04 PM
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well it actually gives some gain in hp, while it reduces engine bay heat
its koo if u have just a cat back and downpipe, purrs at idle and then growls
dont get a midpipe since u are worried about the noise
mike
its koo if u have just a cat back and downpipe, purrs at idle and then growls
dont get a midpipe since u are worried about the noise
mike
08-21-04, 11:22 PM
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If you are going to do a downpipe and a higher flow muffler it would be advisable to get your engine tuned for the mods. The stock ECU might run a bit lean. Add a mid pipe and you're certainly in trouble in several ways unless you tune the car right and port your wastegate.
08-22-04, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by John Magnuson
If you are going to do a downpipe and a higher flow muffler it would be advisable to get your engine tuned for the mods. The stock ECU might run a bit lean. Add a mid pipe and you're certainly in trouble in several ways unless you tune the car right and port your wastegate.
http://www.wvinter.net/~flanham/wlan.../3modrule.html
It's been proven, that it isn't the lean condition with a full exhaust that kills these cars.. it's maintaining safe boost levels.
Of course, all cars are different. So, it's IS better to be safe than sorry.
08-22-04, 01:40 PM
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Thats an interesting document, according to that, as long as your fuel system is working in top shape, you can do quite a few mods to the car before requiring a retune/pfc. But only as long as you can control the boost pressure...
08-22-04, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jdhuegel1
http://www.wvinter.net/~flanham/wlan.../3modrule.html
It's been proven, that it isn't the lean condition with a full exhaust that kills these cars.. it's maintaining safe boost levels.
Of course, all cars are different. So, it's IS better to be safe than sorry.
It's been proven, that it isn't the lean condition with a full exhaust that kills these cars.. it's maintaining safe boost levels.
Of course, all cars are different. So, it's IS better to be safe than sorry.
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08-22-04, 09:25 PM
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One thing i noticed (sorry to hijack your thread) but most of all the Japanese tuner's downpipes have a. . . .how would i explain this. . . . .a shape, sort of like a cobra's hood, while all of the US tuner's downpipe's are simply a "pipe" comparatively. Why is that? Is there any significant gain/advantage for either shape of downpipe? I've always wondered why this is. Someone please help out, or point me to the correct thread, thanks!!
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08-23-04, 12:40 AM
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to answer your other question, no the dp will not make it very much louder at all, at least that was my experience...you will be able to hear your turbos spool up though (not very loud either)
08-23-04, 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jdhuegel1
http://www.wvinter.net/~flanham/wlan.../3modrule.html
It's been proven, that it isn't the lean condition with a full exhaust that kills these cars.. it's maintaining safe boost levels.
Isn't that what happens at higher boost levels?
08-23-04, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by scotty305
If one were on an unlimited budget, would a titanium downpipe be effective? It would be lighter, but would it be able to hold up to the heat the rotary produces?
08-23-04, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Ripzta
Is it alright to get a downpipe and hollow out the factory main cat?? with a catback of course.
08-23-04, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SpeedKing
It's not the "lean condition...that kills these cars"? Isn't that what happens at higher boost levels?
Isn't that what happens at higher boost levels?A full exhaust at 10psi is NOT LEAN.
People seem to think that running a full exhaust -- or more than the dreaded "3 mod rule" -- is what determines the fate of the all-mighty RX7. It's false. It's running those mods at higher than stock boost levels... I apologise if that wasn't easily interpreted in my previous post.
08-23-04, 03:20 PM
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There was a post a while back about titanium - basically, the rotary exhaust is too hot for it right out of the turbos.