Don't know where to put this ... but what wideband shold i get for the FD?
Don't know where to put this ... but what wideband shold i get for the FD?
Unsure of what I should be looking at .....
Want something that reads out red (to match my defi gauges) and is pretty easy to read. Also needs to have a black face.
How's the innovative wideband? I don't think all the bells and whistles really matter since I will eventually have a standalone.
Want something that reads out red (to match my defi gauges) and is pretty easy to read. Also needs to have a black face.
How's the innovative wideband? I don't think all the bells and whistles really matter since I will eventually have a standalone.
The innovate is pretty good. I read a few threads about it here and in the Power FC section before deciding on mine.
I got mine with a red digital readout to match my Defi gauges. That matches well when I attached power to see what it looked like.
That being said, I still haven't found the time to install it and its sitting new and unused in the box it came in. Let me know if you'd like to buy it from me as I have no idea when I'm ever going to get around to installing it.
I got mine with a red digital readout to match my Defi gauges. That matches well when I attached power to see what it looked like.
That being said, I still haven't found the time to install it and its sitting new and unused in the box it came in. Let me know if you'd like to buy it from me as I have no idea when I'm ever going to get around to installing it.
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I HIGHLY recommend the Innovate LC-1 and DB gauge combo -
The LC-1 works beautifully with the Datalogit, the DB gauge is probably the cleanest wideband display out there, and it's like $290 brand new for the whole setup - sensor, gauge, brain box, the whole works.
The sensor doesn't like rotary heat (which is pretty much true of most widebands) so I would recommend putting a bung for the wideband at the very end of the downpipe, just before the flange. Gasses are cooled off enough at that point so it doesn't constantly overheat the sensor.
Also, the LC-1 kit comes with a bung and a screw-in plug for the O2 sensor as well. I just took my downpipe to a local muffler shop with the location marked, $15 I had a bung welded in and done.
Dale
The LC-1 works beautifully with the Datalogit, the DB gauge is probably the cleanest wideband display out there, and it's like $290 brand new for the whole setup - sensor, gauge, brain box, the whole works.
The sensor doesn't like rotary heat (which is pretty much true of most widebands) so I would recommend putting a bung for the wideband at the very end of the downpipe, just before the flange. Gasses are cooled off enough at that point so it doesn't constantly overheat the sensor.
Also, the LC-1 kit comes with a bung and a screw-in plug for the O2 sensor as well. I just took my downpipe to a local muffler shop with the location marked, $15 I had a bung welded in and done.
Dale
One more note -
I recommend against the AEM wideband. Newer ones might be better, but a customer's car had one, and I could NEVER get the wideband/datalogit to agree. Their 5v output for logging is CRAP, many have had problems with it.
Dale
I recommend against the AEM wideband. Newer ones might be better, but a customer's car had one, and I could NEVER get the wideband/datalogit to agree. Their 5v output for logging is CRAP, many have had problems with it.
Dale
Good point - Bosch sensors don't like leaded gas and the like. I do have MANY miles on my LC1 (I was daily driving it and putting on a TON of city miles for a while) and it hasn't had a hiccup.
Bosch sensor widebands, IMHO, are great for an unleaded gas car. If you're going funny on fuels, get the NTK.
Dale
Bosch sensor widebands, IMHO, are great for an unleaded gas car. If you're going funny on fuels, get the NTK.
Dale
zeitronix. Cheap. Reliable. Doesn't have all the wires and crap like innovate. Its the smallest wideband controller on the market. Has easy software and output. Doesn't require the free air calibration.
The LC-1 is (retail) about $100ish less than the Zeitronix. Seems to be a good wideband, just don't dig the display on it. Most of the widebands have fairly hokey displays.
REALLY REALLY wish the Japanese gauge makers would step up with a good reasonable wideband. A Defi wideband? Oh hell!
Good thing is they've finally started making widebands with regular gauge type displays instead of goofy boxes that won't fit anywhere properly on the dash.
It is wonderful that there's a good choice of widebands out there. I remember when they were REALLY damn expensive, like $1200-1500 for a wideband.
Dale
REALLY REALLY wish the Japanese gauge makers would step up with a good reasonable wideband. A Defi wideband? Oh hell!
Good thing is they've finally started making widebands with regular gauge type displays instead of goofy boxes that won't fit anywhere properly on the dash.
It is wonderful that there's a good choice of widebands out there. I remember when they were REALLY damn expensive, like $1200-1500 for a wideband.
Dale
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I HIGHLY recommend the Innovate LC-1 and DB gauge combo -
The LC-1 works beautifully with the Datalogit, the DB gauge is probably the cleanest wideband display out there, and it's like $290 brand new for the whole setup - sensor, gauge, brain box, the whole works.
The sensor doesn't like rotary heat (which is pretty much true of most widebands) so I would recommend putting a bung for the wideband at the very end of the downpipe, just before the flange. Gasses are cooled off enough at that point so it doesn't constantly overheat the sensor.
Also, the LC-1 kit comes with a bung and a screw-in plug for the O2 sensor as well. I just took my downpipe to a local muffler shop with the location marked, $15 I had a bung welded in and done.
Dale
The LC-1 works beautifully with the Datalogit, the DB gauge is probably the cleanest wideband display out there, and it's like $290 brand new for the whole setup - sensor, gauge, brain box, the whole works.
The sensor doesn't like rotary heat (which is pretty much true of most widebands) so I would recommend putting a bung for the wideband at the very end of the downpipe, just before the flange. Gasses are cooled off enough at that point so it doesn't constantly overheat the sensor.
Also, the LC-1 kit comes with a bung and a screw-in plug for the O2 sensor as well. I just took my downpipe to a local muffler shop with the location marked, $15 I had a bung welded in and done.
Dale
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