NOOBSZ

if the car is pretty stock except for maybe some minor bolt ons do you think having the turbos running nonsequential hurts or helps the resale value/chance of selling or does it have no effect at all. just want your guys opinion and the nonsequential mod was done because of simplicity not as a bandaid for boost problems.

DaiOni

does it effect the $$$, not sure. But I wouldn't buy a nonseq car - so, there's an example: it does have some effect on your chance of selling

Joe Geiman

These cars in the future will be worth more if they are bone stock. I can assure you that when the majority interest in these cars becomes collector status the car will be worth original value less anything it takes to put it back into original condition. So non original mods or paint ect. For instance, to a collector if he finds a FD with nonoriginal paint and the condition otherwise would make it a $15k car,
then this car would be worth $15k less the cost to put original paint or color back on it. So if it costs $5k to repaint it to original then the car is worth $10k for example.

If it cost $500 to put it back to sequential that's how much the car is deperciated.

I have a lot of experience in the Corvette hobby and as the cars get older that's how it works.

I guarantee you, an original car in the future will be worth the most.

bajaman

Joe, you put this all very succinctly. There have been a lot of threads of modified FDs and what their value is (especially the V8 converted ones) and some dreamers still have their head in the sand and maintain that a modified FD is worth MORE than a stock one. As you have had experience in the 'Vette world, I have had in the British sports car world with various Triumphs and Jags and MGs. A good case in point is the difference in value of a stock XKE vs one that has had a Buick V6 or a Ford V8 conversion done (something that was very commonly done by companies like John's Cars and Broken Kitty at one time). A stock XKE Series I car will easily bring $60K. A modified V8 car will bring maybe $15K - $20K, because the purchaser KNOWS HE HAS TO TAKE THE CAR BACK TO ORIGINAL CONDITION!
Now yes, the more "collectable" the car is, the greater the influence of non-stock modifications. And yes, it is debateable if the FD will EVER be truly "collectable" as not too many Japanese cars are ever considered this.
Regardless, most of the purchasing public is turned off greatly by mods. Only the cognescenti of the car will consider a modification a PLUS rather than a MINUS.

cewrx7r1

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But that is for the purest collector.

If you watch any of the big US auctions, modified/updated muscle cars prices are now jumping up due to the newer buyers want the look and reliability.

The stock FD is not known for reliabilty.

DaiOni

I'm going to 'buck the system' somewhat... stock vs, well modified v8 conversion.... I'd probably take a good look at the latter.

Montego

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I say it depreciates.

A perfectly working sequential system is awsome. Light bleep of the throttle and instant boost. I'm went non-seq because I was tired of having to trouble shoot a problem every six months. Though I did increase my twin turbo powerband by 700 RPMs I should had done a simplified seq. due to the regular driving "fun" factor. I can always go back but: 1) I can live it it just fine (not worth the trouble) 2) I may be going single soon.

Now if you are one of those rare non-seq guys who get full boost by 3k rpm, then it's all pluses in my book. Predictable, bigger powerband, boost at low RPMs what else could you ask for?

SPOautos

Its probably not going to ever be a real collector item here in the states, or at least not in teh same sense as a old school rare Camaro selling for $150K. It took the Camaro, and other muscle cars 25-30 years to reach that status. So by that rule of thumb everyones stock first gen RX7 should be worth a mint, not $150. hahaha

Stephen

amp

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there will always be a buyer regardless of config..
its all subjective..

Joe Geiman

Take a look at what the Datsun 1600-2000 models are worth now. Try to find a show quality 2000 for less than $10,000.

I'm telling you that the FD is very special and thanks to the F&F movies legendary.
They are as exotic as anything from Italy. To the motoring press it has always been a favorite. It has great potential to be a highly desirable collector car.

adam c

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The 1st gens were relatively inexpensive, and they were imported in large numbers for 7 model years. The 3rd gen was expensive, and was imported for only a short time, in very small numbers. The FD will be a collectors item, and will increase in value.

As far as resale with non-seq, I would say a car with sequential turbos would be more valuable to most people (not kids) looking to buy. Many times a non seq car has been made that way because it wouldn't run the way it should sequentially.

WaLieN

Simply put, the sequential turbo system was a huge selling point for the car. This is what differentiated it from your 300ZX, MR2, 3000GT VR4, etc.

Yes, it will bring down the value.