View Poll Results: Do you drive your 7 if the forecast is rain?
Yes
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My rx7 is my only car.
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I'd rather ride the bus than get my rx7 wet.
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Do you drive your 7 in wet weather?
03-16-04, 01:10 PM
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Road, track or even in fields any weather any time. It's actually better on-track in the rain than it is in the dry as the brakes last more than a handful of minutes.
The day I collected my FD it was frosty, and with the car sporting barely legal Jap tyres I hardly managed to get it up onto the road for lack of traction. Had one interesting moment where I tried to exit a wet roundabout as I used to in my Impreza
only made that mistake once.
As long as there is enough ground clearance (more applicable to snow than rain) my FD will be used
The day I collected my FD it was frosty, and with the car sporting barely legal Jap tyres I hardly managed to get it up onto the road for lack of traction. Had one interesting moment where I tried to exit a wet roundabout as I used to in my Impreza
only made that mistake once.As long as there is enough ground clearance (more applicable to snow than rain) my FD will be used
03-16-04, 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Mahjik
Some decent track pads fix that problem.
Some decent track pads fix that problem.
It should be fun this year with twice that power
Not sure any pads with the stock RS brakes will be up to more than a couple of laps, but will be seeking professional advice on this shortly...
03-16-04, 07:08 PM
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LOL, last year running uprated pads (Hawk HP+) and fluid (Motul RBF600) I only saw about 5 miles on track before stopping became an issue when I was running 180rwhp. The first time I had the FD on track I tried to use it the same way as I did my Westfield, right up to the point where the pads cooked themselves, brake fluid made a break from its reservoir and the rear tyres overheated. I guess I shouldn't have expected 1260kgs of metal to cope with track work as well as 500kgs did.
It should be fun this year with twice that power Not sure any pads with the stock RS brakes will be up to more than a couple of laps, but will be seeking professional advice on this shortly...
LOL, last year running uprated pads (Hawk HP+) and fluid (Motul RBF600) I only saw about 5 miles on track before stopping became an issue when I was running 180rwhp. The first time I had the FD on track I tried to use it the same way as I did my Westfield, right up to the point where the pads cooked themselves, brake fluid made a break from its reservoir and the rear tyres overheated. I guess I shouldn't have expected 1260kgs of metal to cope with track work as well as 500kgs did.
It should be fun this year with twice that power
Not sure any pads with the stock RS brakes will be up to more than a couple of laps, but will be seeking professional advice on this shortly...
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=236544
There just no such thing as a track AND street brake pad.
It's either one or the other.
03-16-04, 07:45 PM
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Rain....anytime
Snow...that is scary, I have slid off the road, from a stop in the snow, its funny to see your tires spinning while your not even in the car and it is just idling in first gear. Put on blizacs though, and it will go through anything, it will even offroad through mud. Don't flame me there, that was a complete accident and the car didn't even get hurt or stuck.
Bob....ex pizza delivery guy
Snow...that is scary, I have slid off the road, from a stop in the snow, its funny to see your tires spinning while your not even in the car and it is just idling in first gear. Put on blizacs though, and it will go through anything, it will even offroad through mud. Don't flame me there, that was a complete accident and the car didn't even get hurt or stuck.
Bob....ex pizza delivery guy
03-17-04, 09:16 AM
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Originally posted by adam c
Really??
It was a joke. Mahjik is always providing links for everyone, so I thought I would provide one for him.
Really??
It was a joke. Mahjik is always providing links for everyone, so I thought I would provide one for him.
03-17-04, 11:41 AM
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FD's in the wet arent that bad, but like any RWD sports car it does require a bity more attention . I have looped my 7 three times and all in the rain, but it doesnt scare me . Most times I keep it off the road during the rainy days because it get dirty.
Snow, well that only happend once to me .On my way to get tuned at KDR last year. I ran into 10 inches of show and they didnt even clear any of the roads in Nazarreth .My 99 spec lip was like a mini snow plow , cars were all over the road...but me and my 7 made it
Snow, well that only happend once to me .On my way to get tuned at KDR last year. I ran into 10 inches of show and they didnt even clear any of the roads in Nazarreth .My 99 spec lip was like a mini snow plow , cars were all over the road...but me and my 7 made it
03-17-04, 08:51 PM
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Bah!
Drove mine for 2 or 3 sessions at the MDA "All Seasons" track driving school last spring. Beautiful weather Saturday. Rain, sleet, and then snow on Sunday until they closed the track after lunch. Wasn't going full-tilt-boogie, but how else are you going to learn how your car handles in inclement weather safely?
Have driven the car on the street in dry, rain, pouring thunderstorm, snowstorm, and post snowstorm. Good tires (I used RE730's and S-03's) and a sensible right foot and you can use a little boost, albeit VERY carefully.
You should be prepared for the unexpected, FWD, RWD, or AWD in inclement weather, and not be caught off guard if you lose grip and it should be a non-thought reflex to correct. Better yet, you should have that nagging voice in your head and that slight tickle in your bottom that you felt that you approached the limit and should knock it off and be more cautious. Better than track time where you are focusing on driving the line and fast, is to spend a lot of time on a wet skidpad (notice I didn't say parking lot...at a private off-road facility) just learning to recognize under and oversteer. BMWCCA from what I was last told insists that their instructors have a high level of competency in under/oversteer correction.
I can't wait to get a dedicated racecar and not feel so worried about sliding a car (prefer RWD myself, but well setup FWD and AWD can slide too) around during the session to hone those skills. The only better way that I can think of aside from more seat time to learn traction management is to become a rally driver...but that's a whole other level of insanity.
Those who think they are "good" drivers need a chip knocked off their shoulders. I firmly believe that I'm still a poor driver despite the experience I have on track.
Oh yeah, daily driving a Miata when you aren't driving your RX-7 is the next best substitute to keeping you "fresh" on a FD's handling dynamics, IMHO.
Regards,
--Ashraf (still a track kiddie...got a few more years before I'm a track daddy...)
Drove mine for 2 or 3 sessions at the MDA "All Seasons" track driving school last spring. Beautiful weather Saturday. Rain, sleet, and then snow on Sunday until they closed the track after lunch. Wasn't going full-tilt-boogie, but how else are you going to learn how your car handles in inclement weather safely?
Have driven the car on the street in dry, rain, pouring thunderstorm, snowstorm, and post snowstorm. Good tires (I used RE730's and S-03's) and a sensible right foot and you can use a little boost, albeit VERY carefully.
You should be prepared for the unexpected, FWD, RWD, or AWD in inclement weather, and not be caught off guard if you lose grip and it should be a non-thought reflex to correct. Better yet, you should have that nagging voice in your head and that slight tickle in your bottom that you felt that you approached the limit and should knock it off and be more cautious. Better than track time where you are focusing on driving the line and fast, is to spend a lot of time on a wet skidpad (notice I didn't say parking lot...at a private off-road facility) just learning to recognize under and oversteer. BMWCCA from what I was last told insists that their instructors have a high level of competency in under/oversteer correction.
I can't wait to get a dedicated racecar and not feel so worried about sliding a car (prefer RWD myself, but well setup FWD and AWD can slide too) around during the session to hone those skills. The only better way that I can think of aside from more seat time to learn traction management is to become a rally driver...but that's a whole other level of insanity.
Those who think they are "good" drivers need a chip knocked off their shoulders. I firmly believe that I'm still a poor driver despite the experience I have on track.
Oh yeah, daily driving a Miata when you aren't driving your RX-7 is the next best substitute to keeping you "fresh" on a FD's handling dynamics, IMHO.
Regards,
--Ashraf (still a track kiddie...got a few more years before I'm a track daddy...)
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