KibagamiR2

I am not sure if it's my imagination or not.. but ever since TFandF came out I have seen more and more people posting in the FD parts for sale section with sub ject lines like this: " Totaled car, need to sell what parts are left" etc etc ad infinitum. WTF guys... why are you buying too much car for yourself? Why not start out in a 240SX which is also RWD before getting a RWD turbo car? I realize that there are true accidents where some SUV driving fewl takes one of us out... However, DAYAM, I am seeing too many completely totaled FDs nowadays.

More parts for we who still have our cars in good condition, but still...

-Kib<-- saddened by the trend

Kiflin

A lot of people want to go from nothing straight to the fd just because of the reputation and speed that comes with the vechicle. Its completely understandable.

RonKMiller

I think everyone thinks they are a much more skilled driver than they actually are, and even a bone stock 10 year old FD3S is an ultra high performance car capable of out handling, braking, and accelerating just about anything on the road. Young drivers feel the need to prove it on a daily basis. It's part of growing up.

(hey, wait a minute.....I'm 48 and still need to do this on a daily basis - wtf?)

Young driver and an FD3S??? An accident waiting to happen. Flame suit ARMED. AGAIN.

"My Mommy and Daddy bought me an RX7 and I crashed it - BOO HOO....... I sure am glad they paid
for the insurance and gas too."

Too bad there's no 7 in the sequel to F&F, I need more parts!

Kiflin

Hehe, come on now, im 17 and im getting my first 7 at the end of this month. Doesnt mean im going to drive fast (which i will do from time to time), im not even going to drive it to classes or out with friends period. I bought it to have as my personal car and im paying for it, the parts, the gas.

Most teens can be stereotyped, but not this one.

johnchabin

iTrader: (2)

One of the many reasons we drive this car is it's not the 'same old thing'.

These people are helping make the car rarer every day...

Ralgh

The best thing anybody can do when buying a high performance car is take it to the track and do a driving school. You can learn so much about how your car feels at its limits. Also learn how to keep the car within its limits. Most imprtantly of all is that you can get your fast driving out of your system in a controlled environment with instructors and safety crews.

RonKMiller

I didn't say teens. I was MUCH more responsible at 17 than I was when I was 21 or even 25.

I worked 30 hours a week, got good grades and kept my nose clean.... didn't take a cent from my parents. That way I could buy whatever I wanted!
(first new vehicle I ever bought was at 17, a brand new Kawasaki 500 H1B, three cylinders of screamin' two stroke power in a 400 lb. frame. 60 hp. Could beat ANYTHING in a straight line. It was nicknamed the widowmaker.....I still have it, and yes, I still ride it, although a little slower.)

Kudos to you for being a stand up guy. Just make sure when you drive fast you check out the road first at slow speed - and do it EARLY on a Sunday morning.

artowar2

Kind of makes you wonder how many of the 13,000 or so FDs (in the U.S.) are left.

Waaaay back when I took Driver's Ed, I remember that they said 9 out of 10 drivers think they're better than the average driver. Seems about right in my experience...

RonKMiller

Now there's some good advice. The most fun you can have with your clothes on! AND, there's an ambulance just hangin' around if things DO get out of control.

I went to Bondurant and Keith Code's Superbike school. Worth every nickel to play Ricky Racer.

Swamp RX-7

Very true, if these, "kids" buy the FD, they won't know the first thing about tuning it, and BOOM! the motor will pop, the kid will think it's garbage and sell it.

GsrSol

When you're young you don't think of the outcome. Some people will race whenever, wherever just to prove something.

A main reason younger drivers are getting FD's are that they are becoming affordable. It is too much car for a 16 year old.

Kiflin

When i first got my license, i wrecked my civic si and totalled it. So ive learned hte lesson the hard way.

DeNguyen

I'm 21. got my car when i was about 18.

I really think age isnt the issue here because ive seen the older generation do just as bad with these cars as the younger people. Crashing them, Blowing their motors. lack of maintenence, etc...

I really hate it when people say that "kids" should not own an FD because of lack of experience. so you gotta be some kind of mechanic/racecar driver to own one? I think NOT!!! If someone is gonna be stupid in their, it probably doesnt matter what kind of car it is, theyre probably gonna crash it anyway.

You guys make it like older people never get into accidents and never blow engines trying to mod out your cars. Ive seen and know plenty of people over the age of 30 who have crashed their FDs or just blown their motors. I even know a guy whos been though 5 motors!

anyway, i think if you can afford the car, thats all that matters.


Oh and by the way. Im on my original motor and no accidents. No tickets either. (*knock on wood*)

Swamp RX-7

You're the exception, not the rule.

93 R1

I guess I'm an exception also

DK

iTrader: (5)

9 out of 10 bears think they're smarter than the average bear, so watch those pic-a-nic baskets!

Nathan Kwok

I highly recommend driving school. I took a one day school at Buttonwillow soon after getting my FD and it was one of the best driving experiences I've ever had. They FORCE you to spin on the skidpad. I was driving around on it and the instructor told me to drive into a snap oversteer situation (he told me to drive as fast as you can in a circle, then suddenly brake and tighten your line). When the tail started to come around I instinctively tried to countersteer and the instructor grabbed the wheel and stopped me, saying "no, just let it spin I want you to feel it". If you had a FWD car they would just grab the e-brake for you. Later they watered down the skidpad so you could experiment with power-oversteer without destroying your tires. Of course then there was the road course, hehe.

Toddzilla

Great idea.


Unfortunatley, my FD is amongst the ranks of the damaged. I let my friend drive it last weekend and here is the result. It will be fixed.

Toddzilla

Damn double post.....oh well, here's another pic.

black99

Friends don't let friends drive their FD's.. (On the serious side though it seems as alot of the cars you have owned have been wrecked at one time)

Everyone is right, the average FD owner is getting younger. I myself blame it a little on the falling prices of them, and while they do have a good reputation in the performance community I can't blame it on that. They're also getting younger I think because of so many import cars being on the road, their friends have integras, cibics, even the occasional 300z and they think that they have the master plan to go out an buy a FD and be king of their crew.

What really scares me are the people who want to buy a single turbo FD as their first FD.

Kiflin

Damn, alot of people on these boards have been into wrecks because of friends.

Toddzilla

WTF are you talking about? This is the first car I've had that's been in an accident. Please tell me that you are not mistaking me for the previous owner. He was, to put it kindly, not very bright.

black99

Sorry. You know what I might be mistaking you for the old owner. Did you ever have a webpage with pictures of a bunch of wrecked cars on it? Did you have an Eclipse? Or am I thinking of someone else? Sorry if I'm mistaken.

Toddzilla

No, that was the guy who used to own my car. I really feel that I rescued this car. He had wrecked almost every car that he had, and was getting ready to put a "mAd tyte" body kit on the FD to match the "phat" wheels.

Sorry for jumping on you like that, but I really don't want to be mistaken for the previous owner. I am aware of his reputation around here.

black99

Ok it's cool. Sorry to have mistaken you for that guy. I just thought his name was something like "Todd" as well and I remember him and the car and I remember seeing his webpage with a ton of wrecked cars on it and it just seemed like the kid would wreck one car and then get a faster one.

I'm kinda glad you aren't the same guy. It makes me feel better that the same jokester no longer owns it.