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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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A/C Questions. Evap Nut Sizes.. Evap Question

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Needed to know what size wrenches to use on the Evaporator.. since they are bigger than 7/8". If anyone knows.. please please post.

Another Question. My car is a 93 Base model. So i've been reading that there are 2 different evaporators out there.. the Nippondenso and the MANA. So now i'm sure i have a MANA evaporator waiting to go into the car, but not sure what i will be taking OUT of the car. So if they are interchangeable.. which i hope.. but doubt. Please let me know. Thanks in advance.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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From Ray at Malloy Mazda:
Only Tourings have Japanese air (Denso-Nippon)

All base models and R1's and R2's have Mana system.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 02:00 PM
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k great. now i just need to know the sizes of those nuts that hold the evap in on the firewall so i can go purchase the correct wrenches.
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by zonblitz
From Ray at Malloy Mazda:
Only Tourings have Japanese air (Denso-Nippon)

All base models and R1's and R2's have Mana system.

that's not true. I have a 94 touring and have Mana stuff.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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Typically I just need my big wrench set - 21mm, 23mm, and 26mm - that will do all AC lines no sweat. Some of the smaller ones might be 17mm or 19mm, but you should have that in your toolbox .

That is the general rule - Tourings have Nippondenso, R packages and bases have MANA. MANA is cheaper and easier to get parts for.

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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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A good crecsent wrench is what I use on all the large a/c lines. The fittings are not super tight since they have o-ring seals. Always use a wrench on both sides of the fitting to keep from twisting them.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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well only problem is that i have like... ZERO room to move the wrenches around because of the ABS unit...
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DaleClark

That is the general rule - Tourings have Nippondenso, R packages and bases have MANA. MANA is cheaper and easier to get parts for.

Dale
Agreed. According to the Service Highlights manual, Nippondenso was the standard, but MANA was optionally available to U.S. and canadian models. I assume the Touring was the standard and R/Base models were the option


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So if they are interchangeable..
parts are not interchangeable between the two systems, with the exception of the A/C condensor (this is an assumption). The mounts should be the only difference on the two condensors.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 02:35 PM
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well i figured a way around the damn thing by going at it from the side.

the nut sizes are..

TOP: 19mm, 28mm.. not sure on the 28.. but it was bigger than 1 1/8"
Bottom: 17mm and 19mm

got them loose.. now just gotta pull it from under the glovebox.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by twinturborx7pete
well only problem is that i have like... ZERO room to move the wrenches around because of the ABS unit...
Bologna. I've done it The most I would have done is loosen the ABS mounting bracket so I could move it slightly. I replaced every o-ring in my a/c system when I converted to 134a.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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most 93 will be nippon denso.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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it was a MANA.. and i was able to remove it. Now i just need to figure out why i'm building too much pressure in my system.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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what are your gague readings? how much freon and oil did you put in the system? you went from r12 to 134? or was it previously converted?
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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it was previously converted to R134a. I'm almost certain that there is too much freon in the system. The previous mechanic had written down 18oz. for the system.. and I think the tech that put the freon in this time put more like 24oz. So i'm sure thats the problem.
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