3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Buying a new motor advice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-30-08, 06:54 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
94blueTT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Thornton, CO
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CO Buying a new motor advice

i got a 94 tt and im lookin to buy a new bigger motor any advice on wat i should get?? and im goin single turbo any advice on that please
Old 05-30-08, 10:28 PM
  #2  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,529
Received 539 Likes on 326 Posts
What's your budget?
Old 05-31-08, 12:01 AM
  #3  
Rotary Enthusiast

iTrader: (3)
 
zack4173's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Bonney lake Washington
Posts: 1,020
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well if you want to stay rotary you could go 20b or 26b but the 26b is very expensive so is the 20b if you dont do it yourself. If you go the piston route the easiest swap is an LS1-LS7 or you could do the new thing and go 2jzgte supra motor. Im sure there is others but these will get you started.
Old 05-31-08, 07:24 AM
  #4  
Constant threat

 
bajaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: near Wichita, Kansas
Posts: 4,952
Received 35 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by 94blueTT
i got a 94 tt and im lookin to buy a new bigger motor any advice on wat i should get?? and im goin single turbo any advice on that please

How much do you know about rotary engines in general? You DO realize that this is not like a V8 powered car where you can swap a 350 for a 396, etc? Meaning there are not "bigger" rotary engines available...readily.

I have to ask, if you just bought the car and want to "swap motors"...why buy the car in the first place? Why not buy something else? You will EASILY be into a $10K - $20K 'swap' if you go with a 3 rotor. Some of these swaps cost $50K when it is all said and done.

But you've come to the right place, there have been a lot of swaps done, most of which eliminate the rotary engine entirely. People that have done this have some very good information to share.

Good luck!
Old 05-31-08, 04:51 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
94blueTT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Thornton, CO
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
CO

i really dont know much bout them at all 2 b completely honest i've jus always wanted 1 so i bought 1 and im just tryin 2 build it and jus needed some help on wats a good motor cause i think mines bout 2 go here soon so i wanted 2 buy another rotary but 1 thats gunna b able 2 hold alot of hp, does any1 know prices of these motors and i good place 2 find them??
Old 05-31-08, 05:57 PM
  #6  
Eh

iTrader: (56)
 
djseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 6,544
Received 333 Likes on 189 Posts
I provide good prices on rebuilt 2 rotors, if you are looking for a 3 rotor contact japan2la.

These engines can handle more hp than the chassis so before you try to build a 600+rwhp setup realize a lot of other things besides the engine needs upgraded or replaced.

If you want to stay 2 rotor I will have what you need unless you are looking for 600+rwhp, I dont offer extra dowel pins or anything to the extreme. If you want a 400-500rwhp setup I can take care of you on that.

Please stick with a rotary whatever you do
Old 05-31-08, 06:08 PM
  #7  
Constant threat

 
bajaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: near Wichita, Kansas
Posts: 4,952
Received 35 Likes on 31 Posts
Originally Posted by 94blueTT
i really dont know much bout them at all 2 b completely honest i've jus always wanted 1 so i bought 1 and im just tryin 2 build it and jus needed some help on wats a good motor cause i think mines bout 2 go here soon so i wanted 2 buy another rotary but 1 thats gunna b able 2 hold alot of hp, does any1 know prices of these motors and i good place 2 find them??
There is a wealth of information on rebuilding/replacing engines in the FD. Sadly, until the "reliability mods" are made (including installing a downpipe, updating the AST, radiator, etc) the original stock engines are prone to failure. Certainly a lot of owners have gone 100,000 or more, but at the same time the normal failure point is around 70,000 miles, usually due to failing coolant seals internally (due mainly to the heat problems associated with an engine that has not had the reliability mods done). Overheat these engine ONE time and you can be in serious trouble.

The other 'killer' of the 13BREW engine is...detonation. Pinging as it is commonly known. While a piston engine tolerates pinging to a certain degree, the rotary, especially the 13BREW engine in the FD, does not. High boost levels or spikes, low octane fuel, improper modifications, etc can and often do cause detonation, which...will destroy the apex or corner seals on the rotors.

Please read the FAQ (frequently asked questions) or better still do some searching for key words like "engine rebuild", you will see VOLUMES of posts about this. To quickly summarize, most owners do one of several things:
  1. remove and rebuild the stock engine
  2. replace the stock engine with a used engine
  3. replace the stock engine with a remanufactured unit
  4. replace the stock engine with a new engine (VERY expensive!)
  5. replace the stock engine with another engine like an aluminum V8
Costs run from $1500 or so for a good used engine (see Rotary Resurrection/Kevin Landers for this, around the same money to rebuild the engine yourself (not recommended), about $4000 - $6000 to rebuild by professionals, about $8,000 - $10,000 for a new engine/new turbos, and LOTS more for swaps/conversions.
Old 05-31-08, 06:16 PM
  #8  
Full Member

 
Timpo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: japan
Posts: 153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
the V8 swap would be very easy, go to www.hinsonsupercars.com
Old 05-31-08, 06:36 PM
  #9  
Eh

iTrader: (56)
 
djseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 6,544
Received 333 Likes on 189 Posts
Originally Posted by bajaman
run from $1500 or so for a good used engine (see Rotary Resurrection/Kevin Landers for this, around the same money to rebuild the engine yourself (not recommended), about $4000 - $6000 to rebuild by professionals, .
Just like to clarify something that often gets overlooked. Kevins builds are pretty much as professional as the customer wants them to be. His rebuilds start at $1000.00 and gets you almost the same stuff replaced that the other "big" more expensive shops replace. He reuses side seals which is about the only main difference between his builds and others out there. He also reuses rotor housings if the customer wishes. You can get a "professional" rebuild from Kevin for much less than most "professional" shops.

Just want to clarify that, Kevin replaces about 95% of the stuff every other shop does that charges way more.

He has built over 50 engines for me and my customers and I have been pleased with every one of the builds.
Old 05-31-08, 06:54 PM
  #10  
Constant threat

 
bajaman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: near Wichita, Kansas
Posts: 4,952
Received 35 Likes on 31 Posts
^good point, I didn't mean to impugn Kevin's work in any way, he is a class act 100%. Good products for good prices.
Old 05-31-08, 07:13 PM
  #11  
Eh

iTrader: (56)
 
djseven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 6,544
Received 333 Likes on 189 Posts
Originally Posted by bajaman
^good point, I didn't mean to impugn Kevin's work in any way, he is a class act 100%. Good products for good prices.
I knew you werent, I just think some people see the price of his rebuilds and think it is too good to be true, when in reality it is really better than advertised
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
cristoDathird
Introduce yourself
28
05-30-19 08:47 PM
The1Sun
New Member RX-7 Technical
9
03-18-18 11:08 PM
fastrx7man
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
33
09-02-15 09:42 PM
bURGRotary87
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
2
08-19-15 03:54 AM



Quick Reply: Buying a new motor advice



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:59 PM.