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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 12:51 PM
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Buying FD for 22k?

Wanted to get your guys opinion. You guys think 22k for a 93 Rx7 RHD with 80,000KM(50k Miles) automatic is worth the price?? Or is it to much??
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 02:09 PM
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I'd say it depends on compression and condition.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 02:11 PM
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Buy it now and deal with the consequences after. As long as you're handy with a set of tools and the compression is at an acceptable level and the car is in decent shape (no/minimal rust, no exterior damage, undercarriage looks pretty good, and nothing is missing) I wouldn't hesitate. Then again, I know nothing about RHD cars.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 02:52 PM
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I am not one to follow the price of cars much these days... but that sounds a little steep. If it is a mint shell and you want and auto then yeah go for it, not a bad deal. BUT if you want a to manual swap it, then you are going to have to rebuild the engine (due to the rear iron being different for manuals and autos) and hunt down a transmission, which is not cheap nor ubiquitous.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by suzukisteve
I am not one to follow the price of cars much these days... but that sounds a little steep. If it is a mint shell and you want and auto then yeah go for it, not a bad deal. BUT if you want a to manual swap it, then you are going to have to rebuild the engine (due to the rear iron being different for manuals and autos) and hunt down a transmission, which is not cheap nor ubiquitous.
You don't think it'll be cheaper to convert said car to manual than buying an entire car? I haven't seen the cost of transmissions these days, but a rebuild (especially if the compression is good) can be done in your garage as well as all of the other things needed for such a swap....okay, as I started typing the bill kept running up in my head and I suddenly see your point
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 03:19 PM
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this thread made me remember the day that I drove my new FD3 off the dealer lot in 1993 for $25k. It may have been even less; low $20k range is best I can recall. They had a yellow R1 for low $30k that I wanted so bad, but it was out of my price range then. Probably why I can’t accept paying what it takes to own another one almost 30 years later.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Manny_Apex
You don't think it'll be cheaper to convert said car to manual than buying an entire car? I haven't seen the cost of transmissions these days, but a rebuild (especially if the compression is good) can be done in your garage as well as all of the other things needed for such a swap....okay, as I started typing the bill kept running up in my head and I suddenly see your point
I remember 8-10 years ago (before I owned my FD and was looking) people used to say manual cars are junk, do not even bother buying one to swap, because you will need, a new ECU, engine, and all the other odd ends (pedal, clutch switch, shift boot). Now people are forking out fat cabbage, just to own one. Sad world we live in.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 03:42 PM
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Here's my current valuation guide for _"need nothing".. LHD , 5spd FD's...ciean title
'93..........94
$10K $15K.........interior
$20k $20K.........exterior
$15K $15K........drivetrain
$45K $50K........total.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 03:46 PM
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Some misinformation in here.

It is true that it is no longer cheap to swap auto to manual unless you get lucky and have parts available.

It is not true that you need to rebuild the motor to do so. A manual transmission will work fine with an engine that came in an auto car (which has a an auto rear iron)
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by suzukisteve
I remember 8-10 years ago (before I owned my FD and was looking) people used to say manual cars are junk, do not even bother buying one to swap, because you will need, a new ECU, engine, and all the other odd ends (pedal, clutch switch, shift boot). Now people are forking out fat cabbage, just to own one. Sad world we live in.
You meant auto, but yea you're right. I wouldn't even care to drive one...just seems like you'd be robbed of most of the experience of owning an FD by picking up an auto one.

OP...hold out for a manual car, or budget another $10-15k for a drivetrain swap, which would put you at $37k. Hell I'd sell my car for $37k and an oatmeal creampie
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 04:04 PM
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OP, if the car is clean in today's market that isn't a bad deal IMO. As long as you're ok with a RHD car. I'm curious if the claimed 50k miles is indeed fact.

I live in NJ and depending on the details (like if the car is in NJ) I'd consider performing a PPI for you. I've done it before for owners in the past.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 05:01 PM
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Thanks guys for the info!. The car does look like it’s in good condition but it will need a repaint, no rust at all, undercarriage looks to be clean. The driver seat is torn up a bit, everything interior is good and the owner showed me a video of the car being driven. He says the car will need an alternator and battery. The car seems to be mainly stock.
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Old Jan 29, 2022 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
Some misinformation in here.

It is true that it is no longer cheap to swap auto to manual unless you get lucky and have parts available.

It is not true that you need to rebuild the motor to do so. A manual transmission will work fine with an engine that came in an auto car (which has a an auto rear iron)
Sorry my bad. Mods please delete my earlier post. I know the rear iron is different for auto cars. So I guess you can go from auto to manual, but not manual to auto?

Anyways, here is a link from the FAQ for OP. Post 3 gives a cost break down. Obviously would need to be adjusted for inflation and demand for discontinued parts.
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...l-swap-258966/
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by suzukisteve
I know the rear iron is different for auto cars. So I guess you can go from auto to manual, but not manual to auto?
Correct. The main issue is the starter mount. If taking a manual engine, and attaching it to the auto trans, you have no place to mount the auto starter because it bolts to the auto rear iron which has a flat spot and bolt holes for it.

On a manual trans, the manual starter bolts to the trans and not the engine. So even though the rear iron has a spot for the auto starter, it doesn't matter because the manual starter goes in the trans.

Technically, you can make a manual rear iron work with an auto trans, but you have to be willing to grind a chunk off your rear iron and make a mounting point for the auto starter. With auto rear irons and new auto short blocks being NLA, I expect this to become more common for anyone that wishes to keep their car auto trans.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 01:02 PM
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Just DCT swap it. The DCT mounts better with the auto rear iron. The difference in price will almost cover the cost. Then you have a really good base to build a monster.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 01:49 PM
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DCT is about a $10k investment, without paying for labor. Not sure that is comparable to an auto to manual swap
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Car doesn’t look too bad. The pricing is on the more reasonable end of things at this time even if it’s a righty and auto car. If you’re ok with those things and the compression checks out, could be a decent project.


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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
DCT is about a $10k investment, without paying for labor. Not sure that is comparable to an auto to manual swap
But $22k + $10k is about comparable to a similar milage/condition manual car.
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 02:22 PM
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Car doesn’t look too bad. The pricing is on the more reasonable end of things at this time even if it’s a righty and auto car. If you’re ok with those things and the compression checks out, could be a decent project.


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yeah eventually a manual conversion will be done. I’ve been watching the prices of rx7’s rise after so many years of dreaming. Now it’s time to jump in and ****** one up before they go even higher
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Old Jan 30, 2022 | 04:41 PM
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But $22k + $10k is about comparable to a similar milage/condition manual car.
Fair point.
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yeah eventually a manual conversion will be done. I’ve been watching the prices of rx7’s rise after so many years of dreaming. Now it’s time to jump in and ****** one up before they go even higher
Yeah. This is the challenge now. It's not a great example of a car, but it's not like you can find one much better for cheaper. You run the risk of prices going up further and quality going down. The main thing you need to ask yourself is do you jump on this and make it nice over time (by spending well over $10k), or do you spend $10k more now on a better example that needs less to be "nice". Finding LHD would also be better for most.
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Alexrx17
Wanted to get your guys opinion. You guys think 22k for a 93 Rx7 RHD with 80,000KM(50k Miles) automatic is worth the price?? Or is it to much??
Bought It, time to get to work
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 09:15 PM
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I will sell you an extra auto trans if you need one
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Old Jan 31, 2022 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TwinCharged RX7
I will sell you an extra auto trans if you need one
Im trying to get rid of this one lol
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Old Feb 3, 2022 | 09:23 PM
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Bought It, time to get to work
have fun … and this was back when prices were lower:

https://www.rx7club.com/build-thread.../#post12314823
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