littlered1.3

im currently building a 93 fd base model for my brother. i want to do somethings to it but i dont want to go to extreme for him. let me know if you think this list of mods is too much for a 16 year old.i mean i just dont want to sink a bunch of time into this and him wreck the thing. just let me know some opinions. i have my own but i need to prove a point. let me know....thanks guys

engine-
trust intake
apexi fmic
turboxs type s bov
pettit down pipe
pettit mid-pipe
hks hi power exhaust
power fc ( so i can mess with it )
turbo timer
boost controller
koyo radiator

suspension-
eibach lowering springs
kyb struts
225/50/16 bridgstone potenzas

exterior-
99 spec wing
r1 front lip
new paint job

Ballin_is_a_Habit

your little brothers one lucky dude!!

Mahjik

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IMO:

engine-
pettit down pipe
pettit AST
hks hi power exhaust
boost controller
Fluidyne radiator


suspension-
RSR Down springs
Koni shocks
225/50/16 bridgstone potenzas

exterior-
99' front lip
new paint job

Most importantly: http://autocross.com/evolution/modul....php?storyid=1

littlered1.3

well hes been workin his tail off tryin to get up money to put into this thing. he is a lucky kid thats for sure i wish my parents bought me a car like that for my first car. but i dont think he should put all this money into it right off the bat. thats just me talking. let me here some opinions

SpeedKing

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A 300+ hp car w/ a 16 year old first time driver? You should save your money and buy him a Civic.

littlered1.3

i didnt even think about that great idea. im gona look into that a little more. thansk man

littlered1.3

lol i hate civics. there everywhere in my town. all of them sounding like pissed off weedeaters and idk if i could let my brother drive one. neway im not the one puttin up the green he is. im just putting in my time. and i just dont want to have to redo it if he wrecks it you know

Rotary_Powerd

In my honest opinion, the car in stock form, with some reliability mods, and perhaps some suspension work. Would be more than enough. He's 16 and that's a FAST sports car even in stock form... we've all been 16 before and we know how that goes lol... just my two cents.

littlered1.3

i know exactly how that goes i talked my parents into buying me a celica all trac for my first car. luckly i never wrecked it but i came close a couple of times and got a couple of tickets in the process. woops

IaMtHeRuThLeSs1

I wish I had a bro that'd build me a FD...heck I'd never build a car for my bro...lol, I'm horrible.

littlered1.3

lol ive just been working on cars since i was like 12 years old. and he dont really know much about cars at all. so im trying to teach him a little bit. its kinda sad he doesnt know nething though cuz my dad drag raced for 30 years......now that i think about it its real sad but yeh neway i just want him to have a reliable car but nice at the same time you know

dgeesaman

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If you're going to put him behind the wheel of a high HP car, get a FWD or at least an AWD car.

The FD is not difficult to drive, but it is not good for learning to drive. Also take into consideration how (if) insurance will be handled. Many insurance carriers don't insure FDs at all, and for good reasons.

I'm going to sound like a crotchety old man here (at the ripe age of 30) but this strikes me as a really bad idea. Especially if you're doing this for someone else who doesn't even have the appreciation for what's involved. The fact that you're here and he's not is some indication that he's not as committed to making this work as you are, and frankly FDs take a tremendous amount of commitment.

Dave

DDagman

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let him drive the car around for a year or so pretty much stock, maybe with a rad, ast, and dp. When he gets used to having power, start adding it gradually. Let him get used to it. 16 years old with a 300+ whp is insane. Let him get used to it first.

jdhuegel1

I wasn't going to go there...

Wait, yes I was!

No offense to youngins, but it's just not a good first car. Hell, for some it's not even a good weekend car.


Tell me there's something about this 16 year old that screams 'RESPONSIBLE DRIVER' and I might listen. Actually, no I probably wont. Sorry.

MrNizzles

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I was a responsible driver when I was 16. Never got a ticket until I was 20! I drove a 71 Chevelle, not a SS, but it was still pretty fast. I even drove friends home after parties and never had a drink myself. Though I ran Track and played Soccer, so drinking never was my thing.

Why not teach him more about the car, how to drive it and get him some professional lessons so he knows more how to handle the car in difficult situations. Is he prone to peer pressure? Grades? Sports? Girlfriend with lots of piercings and tattoos? Rocker/Hippie pot smoking friends?

A father that drag raced for 30 years! Wow, wish I coulda been in that family... I had a father who was "the tax man" and our 3rd car garage was a nice storage unit for him, until I put the family suburban to use, loaded it up with all his **** and drove to the local dump though he wasn't too happy about it, but I didn't care.

I would give your brother a chance, but tell him you will ring him up by his ***** in the school parking lot if he wrecks it or gets a DUI!!

Good luck and enjoy the rebuild

DarkLikePoe

How about an FC? The FC is like the nice girl who lives next door. She needs attention, but she'll dish out that rotary love when she knows you care. She's quirky, a little on the heavy side, and not everyone likes her, and maybe that's why she's loyal. With the FD, it's different. That bitch is two heaping scoops of pure sex, but a golddigger who'll leave you the minute your wallet gets thin. It doesn't matter that you care - there are men who care and have money, and the FD knows it. She'll drop your *** like a Beverly Hills bulimic and even though you really don't want her to go, there'll ALWAYS be some other John with a wad and a hard-on waiting.

Anyway, rant aside, the FD will be a huge financial burden for a 16-year-old. Insurance, repairs... Sure, you're being gracious to cover him NOW, but are you going to finance his high school pimp status? If there's one thing more expensive than a sports car, it's a sports car in a high school parking lot.

clint034

Just to let you guys know.. parents bought me a FD when I turned 16.. I am now almost 20.. aside from getting a new clutch and minor bumper damage from running over dead animals.. my FD is still in great shape.. oh and only 1 speeding ticket that driving school took care of so there are a few responsible 16 year old drivers out there

gracer7-rx7

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If the FD had been my first car when I was 16, I am pretty certain I would have wrecked it and maybe even hurt myself in the process...

existanzrx7

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Yes its a bad Idea! I feel like were going to lose another Fd. Dem

TpCpLaYa

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u know ur bro better than anyone in terms of his self control....and you need it when driving a car like this

i got my FD when i was 16 and ill be 21 soon. Never any accidents and shes in great shape

i am broke tho ;-)

SJ_chameleon

That is so true.

And speaking from recent experience I think that everyone here has brought up a good point. Since your brother is paying for it himself I would recommend he takes a driving school like the one recommended. I know what is like to not want to own anything other than a 7 but I also did a lot of stupid stuff and caused my fair share of damage. I am thankful that it was only to an NA FC because I probably would have killed myself, but once I started autocrossing I found I became a better driver. I know not all 16 yr olds are stupid like I am but I also know that most are.

Thats just my 2 cents.

P.S. I am trying to help my brother build my FC to give to him so I give you props for what you are doing.

RLaoFD

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I got my fd a month after i turned 16 and if you know he is responsible enough to take care of it then he'll be one happy person. ur a cool bro i jus hope he realizes that enough not to turn this gift into a tragedy.

dgeesaman

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It's not that teenagers are generally stupid, it's that you don't know what you don't know. And in the absence of good information, they rely on each other for answers. Nuff said there.

Legally required driver training (including the parent's role too) is woefully inadequate to prepare teenage drivers. No doubt I think it makes a lot of difference how much attention is paid to extended training and appreciation for the challenge and risk.

Dave

Hitokiri_Gensai

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Hrm... yeah... im not gonna lie, my FD was my first car, and i did wreck it, and it cost me well over 10k to fix, and ever since then... well i treat her like my life depended on it.

so 16 and an FD? not two words i would put together in the same sentence. atleast, not unless it was "you're 16 your NOT getting an FD"

look into 240's or something similar if you want RWD, but its one of those things where learning to drive one, is best done on under 200 horse, still a chance for trouble, but a hell of a lot less than if it was over 300 horse. on top of that, 240's come fairly cheap, can be repaired fairly easily (more easily than an FD at anyrate), and an insurance company is more likely to insure it.

I love my FD, but its a lot of power, and i was 17 when i had mine, and i payed the price for being young and dumb and you know, i worked my *** off to pay for that car and then i ended up working my *** off even harder to see her back on the road.

sooo FD at 16? not my first choice, heck for someone, anyone, who might have learned to drive on a FWD or AWD, going to a powerful RWD car like the FD, is a bad idea. Itll oversteer like a bitch, and youll be spinning before you know what happened. and when that happens, **** breaks.

HKNY

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[QUOTE=MrNizzles;7239049]I was a responsible driver when I was 16. Never got a ticket until I was 20! I drove a 71 Chevelle, not a SS, but it was still pretty fast. I even drove friends home after parties and never had a drink myselfQUOTE]

Thats all good Nizzles,but you are the exception to the rule.Fact is most 16 year old kids drive like lunatics and simply lack the experience to handle a powerful,light ,RWD car.Does that mean he wouldn't be able to drive it or would get hurt? Maybe not,but it wouldn't be the best idea. Not to mention the cost of maintaining these cars,gas,and insurance. i would say to look into another car or wait a few years before getting an FD.