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Old 12-12-05, 02:12 PM
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bogus or no?

I was talkin to a guy today while i was at work, and he happened to mention that he has a '94 White base with 22k miles on it. we got to talking about his car, and he said that these were his following mods: DP, HF Cat, HKS CB exhaust, PFS SMIC, Koyo, Aluminum AST, and a M2 flashed ECU. He then went on to tell me that he was changing his boost settings by changing out the WG pills, and that he was pushing 417 hp on a dynopack with race gas, tuning the flashed ECU with his wideband and laptop for 11:1 AFR's. He said with pump gas he is pushing 360 or 370 on stock twins at 12psi. I kept my mouth shut so i didn't offend him/**** him off, but if i knew how to raise the BS flag on here, i would. What do you guys think? Is he full of **** or possibly telling the truth?

He also said that he was running 16 or 17 psi on his primary, and then 12-15 on his secondary, all on stock fuel system. I thought that the 417 was a optomistic at best, and more than likely a load of ****, but when i heard that he was running 16 or 17 psi on his primary and not hitting fuel cut on a stock, flashed ecu, i had to bite my cheek to keep myself from laughing.
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There is no way he could pull 417 on stck fuel system. Then again the rotory gods may say different.
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Yeah isn't the stock fuel system only capable of handling power in the low 300 hp range if that?
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that's what i thought, i just wanted to share a funny story that an older guy told me. can someone raise the BS flag for me? i don't know what to type in.
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Old 12-12-05, 02:28 PM
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thank you very much
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The stock fuel system at 85% or above on injector duty cycle CAN deliver up to ~360 hp, though it is not a good idea to push things this far. Now, the stock ECU won't allow that, but a flashed unit could.

I think your friend is being optimistic at best, though by all accounts he STILL has one helluva a car with nicely integrated mods.
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Absolute bullshit. For one, you can't tune a chipped ecu...Secondly, with those mods, he would be lucky to hit 320 rwhp....even at 15-16 psi of boost.
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lol, that's what i was hoping for Rynberg. awesome reply. This is why i asked for someone to raist the BS flag.
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Complete bs. Not an ounce of truth in that.
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i know, i thought i would share a funny story, the guy was full of ****, i hinted at he was full of **** a few times, and he was like "no, it's all in how cold you can get the air and your fuel management".
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Originally Posted by whitey85mtu
i know, i thought i would share a funny story, the guy was full of ****, i hinted at he was full of **** a few times, and he was like "no, it's all in how cold you can get the air and your fuel management".
You see, he is BASICALLY correct here. He is a clever bullshitter, one that feeds in just enough truth to his exaggerations to make it all sound proper and logical, giving a story that holds up to casual scrutiny by the average joe. He also is pretty knowledgeable about the car and what it takes to make some wide-eyed kid who can quote every line from TFATF go oooh and aaaaah!
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Originally Posted by bajaman
You see, he is BASICALLY correct here. He is a clever bullshitter, one that feeds in just enough truth to his exaggerations to make it all sound proper and logical, giving a story that holds up to casual scrutiny by the average joe. He also is pretty knowledgeable about the car and what it takes to make some wide-eyed kid who can quote every line from TFATF go oooh and aaaaah!

lol, ya, He was trying to slather on the **** as he told it to me, i had to keep myself from bustin out laughing at him. First thing i asked when he told me that he was putting 417 to the ground was what single he had or if he had BNR stage 3 twins, and when he told me that the engine and turbos were stock. Then i was like "what fuel mods do you have, 850 primaries and 1600 secondaries?" thinking he just turned the boost way the f*$k up with a huge fuel system and pulled those numbers. His response: stock, all stock. You're right, he is a clever bullshitter, but a bullshitter nonetheless. he walked away and i just shook my head at him.
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I blow my stock fuel system when i'm at 14 PSI on my FD that i bought for just 2 weeks. even thought he install 1600 injectors on secondaries, the stock engine itself cannot handle such HP unless with proper tuning and stand alone ECU.
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lol similar thing happened to me today...me and my manager got on the subject of cars and he goes to tell me he used to have a 95 turbod eclipse with some mods including a stage 4 NOS system ...he goes to tell me he ran a 9 second 1/4 and all this unbelieveable ****...now the part that i almost lost it was when he said "i had to replace the rear tires from racing so much" now last time i checked...eclipses are FWD
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Originally Posted by Rufio
lol similar thing happened to me today...me and my manager got on the subject of cars and he goes to tell me he used to have a 95 turbod eclipse with some mods including a stage 4 NOS system ...he goes to tell me he ran a 9 second 1/4 and all this unbelieveable ****...now the part that i almost lost it was when he said "i had to replace the rear tires from racing so much" now last time i checked...eclipses are FWD

Well they do have the GSX eclipses/ Talon/ Laser / VR-4's which are AWD... but just the rear tires eh? Good for a laugh I suppose.
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^^^^ freaking hell thats funny, "ya it's a RWD" pull your head outta your ***, reminds me of that specail edition mustang "GTR" people get over sold on **** and few a bunch of crap about the car and then try to pull it on others, whatever, stupid people of the world can unite somewhere else, prefribly where a bomb is about to explode. Thats my feelings for them


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