3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Blown primary turbo?? help!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 10-14-07, 03:13 PM
  #1  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
gyroemunkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Unhappy Blown primary turbo?? help!

so heres the story.....


a few days ago, one of my tires got a flat and had to run on a spare for a few hrs because it was late at night and i was in the middle of the desert.. anyway, i heard a whirring sound from the engine bay and saw my oil level was low, so pulled over and got a few quarts of oil to hold me off until i got home and the whirring went away. keep in mind i did not build any boost on the way home since i could only drive 50 mph the whole time on the freeway and the next day i got the oil changed and drove the FD around and noticed something different....


the boost builds up slowly until around maybe 4000rpm then the secondary turbo kicks in hard as it usually does, but boost does build on the primary side. i am wondering if the turbo is blown or if theres another problem at hand. at WOT it sometimes does reach full boost JUST before the secondary comes, usually in 1st gear, but it is very slowly. it just is not as responsive for running 99 spec turbos sequentially. any ideas on what it could be or how can it be repaired? its just so frustrating because it was running so beautifully before and 99 spec turbos can be pretty pricey.....


Old 10-14-07, 03:31 PM
  #2  
Blithering Idiot

 
dontlift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: NE Pa
Posts: 338
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Try this site for debugging the sequential turbo control system:

http://www.autosportracetech.com/RX-...leshooting.htm
Old 10-14-07, 09:11 PM
  #3  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
gyroemunkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
ok thanks.. ive seen that page before and ill check through it again, but was wondering if anyone knows exactly how a blown turbo behaves, or maybe it could be a malfunctioning boost solenoid.. maybe someone has further insight....
Old 10-14-07, 10:00 PM
  #4  
2/4 wheel cornering fiend

 
Kento's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,090
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Do you have a boost gauge? Are you sure it's building full boost on the secondary side?

If so, then you might have a problem with turbo pre-control.
Old 10-14-07, 10:38 PM
  #5  
trainwreck

 
BigJim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lake, Michigan
Posts: 1,725
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
if ur primary is shot, wanna sell ur secondary?
Old 10-14-07, 11:38 PM
  #6  
Mazzei Formula

iTrader: (6)
 
Monsterbox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Birmingham, Al
Posts: 3,020
Received 143 Likes on 69 Posts
i doubt the turbo is blown...u would have smoking signs and such first I would think

If your secondary was kicking in and pulling hard as usual that would mean both were running strong because the secondary is the same as the primary and it would not pull hard at 4000+ if only one was working
Old 10-14-07, 11:54 PM
  #7  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (9)
 
turboIIrotary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: dayton,ohio
Posts: 2,618
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
i have a blown turbo and my car smokes out the exhaust like no other and strong oil smell
Old 10-15-07, 09:35 AM
  #8  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
gyroemunkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
alright.. so no smoke coming out the exhaust and yes it does pull hard in high rpm.. if it is the turbo pre-control, what can i do about it to make it run better? go non sequential? any other options?
Old 10-15-07, 06:14 PM
  #9  
2/4 wheel cornering fiend

 
Kento's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Pasadena, CA
Posts: 3,090
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by gyroemunkee
alright.. so no smoke coming out the exhaust and yes it does pull hard in high rpm.. if it is the turbo pre-control, what can i do about it to make it run better? go non sequential? any other options?
Get a boost gauge and go back to post #2 and read carefully...
Old 10-15-07, 07:56 PM
  #10  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
gyroemunkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i do have a boost gauge and it is reading full boost at high rpm.... ill chech that link and see what i can figure out... thanks guys
Old 10-16-07, 03:48 PM
  #11  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
gyroemunkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
still trying. maybe the pre-control is stuck open? how could u tell this?
Old 10-16-07, 09:03 PM
  #12  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Toronto
Posts: 823
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by gyroemunkee
still trying. maybe the pre-control is stuck open? how could u tell this?
I have had the same problem before, I beleive this problem occured for me when i spiked over stock levels to about 14-15psi on a cold night doing hiway runs.
For about 2 weeks after i couldnt really build boost on my primary, no smoking ....
I beleive it was one of the Turbo control actuators....

Everything works pretty good now, just becarefully when your really boosting.. mind you i dont have an aftermarket ECU and no boost controller..
I am running full intake and CAT BACk exhaust with DP so i watch my Boost guage very closely when im boosting. I rarely just jump on it and WOT right away i let my boost gradually build up and then stomp it when im around +5 and it doenst usually spike that high...
Old 10-20-07, 05:12 PM
  #13  
Junior Member

Thread Starter
 
gyroemunkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
okay, so its been a lil less than a week and it actually started spooling up faster and faster to now its back to where it was originally. i guess it just got stuck and had to be freed, possibly? anyway, its back to running properly just strange how it could happen like that... thanks everyone that tried helping out, now since i dont have to go replace anything, back to modding...... lol
Old 10-21-07, 07:56 AM
  #14  
Lost You in the Rear View

 
RotaryBred's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Rocky Hill, CT
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by gyroemunkee
still trying. maybe the pre-control is stuck open? how could u tell this?
just an FYI, if the pre-control was stuck open, your turbos would act like the wastegate was always closed... i know from first hand experience. great way to pop a motor as well
Old 10-21-07, 08:01 AM
  #15  
YOUR MOM IS MY ADDICTION


iTrader: (2)
 
joe-c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: STOCKTON, CA / VENTURA, CA
Posts: 540
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
go single
Old 10-21-07, 09:01 AM
  #16  
Original Gangster/Rotary!


iTrader: (213)
 
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Posts: 30,529
Received 539 Likes on 326 Posts
Lightbulb

Originally Posted by joe-c
go single
.....if you have ten or fifteen grand to spend on the system, all supporting mods/hardware, and installation.
Old 10-21-07, 09:10 AM
  #17  
Mr. Links

iTrader: (1)
 
Mahjik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 27,595
Received 40 Likes on 26 Posts
Originally Posted by gyroemunkee
okay, so its been a lil less than a week and it actually started spooling up faster and faster to now its back to where it was originally. i guess it just got stuck and had to be freed, possibly? anyway, its back to running properly just strange how it could happen like that... thanks everyone that tried helping out, now since i dont have to go replace anything, back to modding...... lol

Just FYI. Typically, a problem that comes and then goes away on its own, will come back again eventually.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
trickster
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
25
07-01-23 04:40 PM
hotshot2014
New Member RX-7 Technical
8
07-18-17 02:30 PM



Quick Reply: Blown primary turbo?? help!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:03 PM.