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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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big project, vmount

im seriously contemplating doing a vmount setup on my car. BUT here's the kicker, im on low budget. i plan on buying an Ebay IC and a koyo rad off rx7store.net, unless i find a good one somewhere else cheap. i am going to make all of my own pipes, including the 90* elbow off the thottle body. i am mechanically inclined, creative, and i can solve problems, the only thing is that im an 18yo that works my *** off just to pay for insurance, payments, and gas. so i guess this is kind of an open discussion thing of whether i should go forward with this and start the project or that im just another stupid teen. any feedback or info from people who have done a vmount setup on their own would be greatly appreciated.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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What exactly is the goal for the car? A track car? Drag car? Just street driven?

IMO, unless you are tracking the car, the v-mount is an expensive "look at this" mod. You'll do much better (on yourself and your bank account) to pick up a used PFS, ASP/M2 or Pettit SMIC.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Listen to Mahjik. You can pick up a used PFS/Pettit/Blitz/Greddy SMIC for under $700, sometimes significantly under. And it will just drop in and work the first time.

I think you're trying to take too much on for no good reason.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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i made my own before man its it harder than i thought

price wise it was less but not by much, fabrication is all throughout the project

from the ic, rad, brackets and to ducting

iyts alot of time and work man
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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The Ebay intercoolers I've seen were pure junk and absolutly NOT functional at all. Sure they look the same on the outside....but its the inside that counts. The Ebay IC's I've seen had NO turbulators at all inside, they were nothing more than square tubing with fins attached, they are absolutly not functional. Now if you talking about getting a good name brand one used on Ebay that might be different but how do you know its Spearco, Bell, Griffin, ect??? It could be a knock off and you not know it because non of them put thier names on them.

I would do as suggested and get a good used IC from someone off the forum. Let me say right now, if you are on a budget this tight then you dont need a V mount a SMIC will be pleanty sufficient for the hp levels your going to reach with a budget like this. Not trying to be an ***....but thats just how it is.

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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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You can do a search on "V-Mount" to see that this is not a trivial engineering effort.
This is not a project to undertake if saving money is one of the goals.
As a BTW - a radiator with stock mounting points is not your best solution for this project in any case. If you can find pics of the HKS V-mount kit, you will see that the stock fans need to be flipped to the other side of the radiator when it is laid down.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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thanks everyone. sorry for jumping into this not knowing anything, i guess i should have searched more. i plan on mostly doing street driving, and ill be moving RIGHT nxt to daytona raceway so maybe take it on the roadcourse on the inside occasionally. i guess ill do a smic. you guys know what your talking about so ill take your word for it. and the radiator, should i buy a new one and put it where its at right now? ive seen a lot of vert rads too. is that an expensive undertaking or feasible?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by onelife2stories
and the radiator, should i buy a new one and put it where its at right now? ive seen a lot of vert rads too. is that an expensive undertaking or feasible?
You only relocate/reposition the radiator when using an FMIC. With an upgraded SMIC, the radiator will stay in the stock location.
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
You only relocate/reposition the radiator when using an FMIC. With an upgraded SMIC, the radiator will stay in the stock location.
And get more airflow than a FMIC will provide, a much more logical solution for roadcoursing the car!
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 09:53 AM
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oooook! sounsd like a smic will be the choice. im giong to move the bat to the rear or get a smaller one, and make some more room for a wider better stockmount. so ebay ic' are crap huh. that sux. im gonna have save soem more then. what about pipes? i plan on making them on my own, any advice about that? should i just fork out the hundreds of dolalrs to buy it, or just makeit on my own for the cost of the materials only (we already got a TIG welder)? is it really hard to make pipes?
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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If you buy a used SMIC like we recommended, you won't have to fab up piping. You either use the stock piping to the IC or the IC comes with its own piping and just as importantly, its own ducting.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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I donnu, im severely dissapointed in my PFS coolcharge III. When tuning my car, my intake temps were outrageous. And if im around town and stuff, not getting up to speed, I can't see it being very efficient.
whether or not it is worth it to buy a vmount, i just donnu.

However for a road race car i could see how a smic would work nicely.....
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gen3RxProj
I donnu, im severely dissapointed in my PFS coolcharge III.
No such thing, it's the PFS SMIC or the Pettit Coolcharge III. As I recall, the III is equivalent to the ASP Large. Obviously it will heat soak but you shouldn't have intake temp problems. Notice also that an open intake will cause high air intake temps when sitting still.

No IC, SM, FM, or VM is going to work very well sitting on a dyno.....
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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i totally agree with rynberg....but also for the making your own intercooler pipings question you have.....well my suggestion is to just buy a used one that comes with the piping already for whatever application you have on your car. making your own piping is a pain in the ***...my car has it......you have to sand down the welds than sometimes reweld due to cracking...its a bunch of time consuming BS so your best bet is to buy a pre made drop and go kit...good luck and peace out
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Sorry about that, its the Pettit III. I think I'm just going to keep it. The pettit III w/ water injection will hopefully be enough to keep the temps down as much as possible.

My mechanic told me to ditch it because the intake temps were so bad while on the dyno.
I just wanted to check here, and from what it seems like the Pettit III is a pretty damn good setup. Ill let him know to discard the dyno' temps and that the efficiency of the the large smic is when the car is up to a speed.

I like the fact that my car looks stock too. So ill keep it.
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