Warren Zock

Maybe its just paranoid me but I don't trust bolt in. If you buy one atleast weld it togeather.

I snap the heads off bolts when I am working on the car (without a torque bar) i have to assume putting your car into a wall or another car into you will do the very same. it seems like a huge weak point.

also with the size and weight depending on what you want/ how reasonable our local shops car. getting a custom weld in isnt going to really cost that much more.

M104-AMG

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Isn't the RaceShop one NOT a true cage ?

:-) neil

Mahjik

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Their 4pt (or any 4pt) bar, yes that is not a "cage". However I do believe Larry at one time did build/offer full cages with option door support.

Miata_mx5

Neither. Cusco and Autopower both suck IMO.

The raceshop is a roll-bar, not a full cage.

Full cage costs around 2000~ for a properly done, gussetted, boxed cage. Maybe more if it's for a specific racing series. I prefer to trust my life with quality rollcages. I have seen proper cages save lives on the street and track.

justturbo2

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I Realy Like The Raceshop One.

p00shy

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Anyone have a rollcage with glass sunroof? Any good 4 point bolt ins with sunroof??

Mahjik

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Kirk Racing Products

David Hayes

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So, stupid question: With one of these installed, can your seat position go all the way back or is it impeded? I've got Sparco EVO seats and wouldn't mind a setup I can have and use for HPDE events, but then take out the harness (leaving the car installed) and use the stock seat belts for daily driving.

Thoughts?

Mahjik

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It depends on where the mounting points are located. If you get one that either removes the bins or goes through the bins, then you won't loose any seat positioning. However, most of the bolt-in rollbars will mount through the floor so you'll loose some room there. When I installed the Kirk Racing bolt-in version, the stock seat could not go all the way back with the stock rails.

To maximize the seating position, don't use a bolt-in rollbar. Have one welded in which either removes or goes through the storage bins.

David Hayes

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Thanks for the info. I want to keep everything as stock as possible so I will check into getting one made that goes through the bins. I appreciate it.

ptrhahn

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I think the Raceshop bars are still made on a per case basis, at least according to this:

http://www.norotors.com/index.php?PH...&topic=13320.0

These are (IMO) the best bolt-in solution for these cars ever made. Of course a custom fuull cage is better from a safety on track and structural rigidity perspective, but you also need to consider the permanence with respect to value, streetability, and street safety when you or your passengers are not wearing helmets or just street belts, or no belts. Ceiling and crossover bars aren't very friendly to skulls in accidents, and full cages may make exiting the car more difficult in certain situations.

primerGrey

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I have the Raceshop rear bar assembly with extra bracing and harness supports, and it is superb.

- You do lose maybe an inch of seat motion.

- It is possible with the stock R1 seats to get my head to hit the bar - I'm about 6 foot. I imagine this is true for all roll bars. In a rollover or rear or front end collision, I don't think I'd be around if my head were able to whip into this bar unprotected by a helmet (and even with a helmet, it doesn't seem good).

So, I'd say it is important, for street use (that is, when driving without a helmet on) to

a) wrap the ceiling bar with the very stiff foam designed for roll bars. Here's an example of the kind of foam I'm talking about - the link probably isn't the right diameter though:

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...p?Product=2391

b) get aftermarket seats that drop both passenger and driver down about an inch or so, and that have a higher seat top to help keep the head away from the bar.

And keep in mind all of the above is really just guess-work in an area of automotive science that relies heavily upon expensive data collection (that is, crash testing). So it is good to be both conservative in one's thinking, and also paranoid that even that isn't enough.

JBF

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Doesn't look like the thread went anywhere.

neit_jnf

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I got my Raceshop bar this past December if that helps. I contacted him directly via PM Raceshop to order. Looks like he's still lurking... (Last Activity: 07-17-13 01:41 PM)

Islander

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Has anyone looked at the samberg customs one?


FD 4-Point Roll Bar | Samberg Performance

jlorx7

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Bump for this question^^^^^^^

rexset

Nice roll bar
It will be good if they have more pic at the web site

ZoomZoom

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I got raceshop bar a few months ago, I reccomend it. This is my car here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mik3ymomo/9783761544/http://www.flickr.com/photos/mik3ymomo/9783563301/

Tem120

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I really like how the race shop bar looks ,and seems to fit , if you dont mind me asking how much was it ?

also is the rear bar safe to put a harness onto? or is there an addition that must be made for the harness bar ?

rexset

The same
How much is it?

ZoomZoom

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It depends on the options you choose. You can get extra supports, seat back braces, door bars etc.
starts out just south of $1k and then on up. Contact them for exact quotes for what you want.