ATTN: 600+ HP club
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ATTN: 600+ HP club
I know people on here are pulling over 600 HP. I want to know what sort of setups are being run at this level. I want purely 13B-REW related stuff (no 3-rotors). I want to know things like: Engine internal mods, Turbo/s used, Boost pressure!!, trans/diff mods, ECU, HP numbers!, N2O (how much), etc.
I want to swap the 3rd gen motor into my 2nd gen b/c I see people getting much more out of the 3rd gen motor.
Thanks in advance
I want to swap the 3rd gen motor into my 2nd gen b/c I see people getting much more out of the 3rd gen motor.
Thanks in advance
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You would get a better response by posting this in the single turbo forum as anything making 600hp+ on a 13B would almost have to have a single turbo. But you will still probably only find a handful of guys doing this, and almost none of them will probably be street driven, but Ari's car from www.rx7.com is a good example of a 600hp+ car, go to the website and take a look if you want..
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Originally posted by JoeD
there are no street driven FD's in the 600 RWHP range. to get that number, you need crazy porting, 30+ PSI, and race gas.
there are no street driven FD's in the 600 RWHP range. to get that number, you need crazy porting, 30+ PSI, and race gas.
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Define "streetable", I drove mine everyday (that it was nice) for 2 years. Yes, when you want to turn the boost up, you want good gas, but the car is still totally streetable, just more throttle over steer
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Originally posted by Speed Addict
Streetable = better than 10 mpg during city driving, 15 or so on highway, not too hard to get moving, etc.
Streetable = better than 10 mpg during city driving, 15 or so on highway, not too hard to get moving, etc.
As long as it has a license plate, its streetable!
Joe D, Johnny... wanna bet? Gimmie 1 month and ill prove you wrong, I'm almost done...
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I agree..you probably count the people on you hands making that kind of power on this forum and I highly doubt they are very streetable..
I agree..you probably count the people on you hands making that kind of power on this forum and I highly doubt they are very streetable..
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Originally posted by Black680hp7
Define "streetable", I drove mine everyday (that it was nice) for 2 years. Yes, when you want to turn the boost up, you want good gas, but the car is still totally streetable, just more throttle over steer
Jason.
Define "streetable", I drove mine everyday (that it was nice) for 2 years. Yes, when you want to turn the boost up, you want good gas, but the car is still totally streetable, just more throttle over steer
Jason.
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Originally posted by Speed Addict
Streetable = better than 10 mpg during city driving, 15 or so on highway, not too hard to get moving, etc.
Streetable = better than 10 mpg during city driving, 15 or so on highway, not too hard to get moving, etc.
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Originally posted by Speed Addict
Streetable = better than 10 mpg during city driving, 15 or so on highway, not too hard to get moving, etc.
Streetable = better than 10 mpg during city driving, 15 or so on highway, not too hard to get moving, etc.
Between 11-14mpg seemed to be about the average.
If you are worried about gas mileage, then the FD isn't for you.
On another note, I've seen some post of some owners with 450+ rwhp with FD's, and some say that everyday driving with a car like that would be a pita, especially if you have any type of stop-and-go traffic.
The FD is not a heavy car. Keeping that kind of power onto the ground is not an easy task and requires other modifications than just engine/turbo mods to generate the power.
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Well, here is my definition of a street car. Obviously has all the turn signals lights etc.., runs pump gas, and d.o.t. radial tires, and doesn't overheat in traffic. That's the beauty of turbo cars, they can be as docile as an econo car, yet, when needed the power is there. Although I wouldn't recommend pushing an rx7 past about 17psi on pump gas, when you do have race gas in the car, you can drive it on the street and make big power. So, can you have a streetable 680hp rx7, I would say that the 680hp car is streetable, but you can't make 680hp on pump gas.
Also, the only part that is a pain about it to drive on the street, is having enough room when you decide to pull the trigger!
Jason.
Also, the only part that is a pain about it to drive on the street, is having enough room when you decide to pull the trigger!
Jason.
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I think the the term streetable is often misused.You need to actually make power at some type of reasonable rpm all these guys run around with these half assed tuned cars that are not making useable boost until 4500rpm and that is not streetable.I think streetable=usable boost and usable boost=somewhere in the 32 to 3500rpm you should have reasonable boost I preferably think 1 bar +/- .The setup I'm in the middle of gives 14.7lbs by 3500rpm and you see 10lbs by 2800rpm I will be able to run up to 28lbs with this turbo, and I feel this will give me the streetabilty of a RX6 with the power all you guys seem to like with the T78, as far as mpg I could care less thats not why I bought this car.
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I make 14 psi by 3500, but I still don't believe that defines streetable. You don't have to use the boost that you have, you can still drive on the street, and get the occasional street race. Even though the larger turbos feel like they make less power at lower rpm because their is less boost, the dyno tests that I have done do not confirm this. For instance I can take a stock 93 RX7, and it might make say 100hp to the wheels at 2500 rpm ( I am pulling these numbers out of the air, because I don't have my sheets handy), and the single turbo(although it makes less psi) makes 20 more hp at the same rpm, but feels slower because of the intense increase at 4500. So I will still go with the ability to drive it every day to and from work, regardless of querks. Different people can put up with different qwerks, that doesn't mean it isn't streetable. My wife hates driving my 7 because it has a stiff clutch, I find this a plus (she won't drive it)
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Being able to have a good amount of power at a moments notice to get you out of trouble is what I think makes it streetable( for the average shmoe) thats why manufacturers put those tiny little turbos on our cars. I'm not disagreeing with the fact about how it can feel compared to what it actually does, streetable is a relative term but a broad power band is better than a peaky one. My car wouldn't be streetable for most for the same reason you say yours wouldn't and I'm sure your not driving around with it turned up all the time, as neither do I. as far as 14psi at 3500rpm being streetable, I was trying to make a point, you have so many people that go out buy these big *** turbo's throw them on their car don't spend the time to tune it properly and drive a laggy car, that is harder to get you out of trouble when needed, Also I stated it is what I prefer not that it is the definative answer to streetability.The point being a good amount of power at reasonable rpm=broad powerband which is what most people like to shoot for.I see you've gotten alittle better with the smilies
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Exactly, that is the point of this whole thing, Streetable is an opinion. I believe if it can be driven with pump gas, with legal tires, liscensed, signals etc.. It is streetable, other people think that if it's liscensed it's streetable (never mind that it will not run on anything but race gas). So determine what you consider a streetable combination and go from there.
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streetable, IMO, means that you can drive it around in reasonable comfort, and not having to actually worry about anything. that includes not having to worry about cops or unwanted attention. also, if it does not run on pump gas, it is not streetable.
my .02.
my .02.
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I'm running 18psi on pump gas, straight exhaust, single turbo, ect.... and it feels pretty damn streetable to me. However keep in mind that when you hit a certain rpm with that boost the car takes off like a bat out of hell, but other than that you can't tell that it has that much power. Thats the beauty of it, and what makes it streetable. Oh and by the way, when I drive reasonable (not boosting over about 5psi and shifting @ about 3000rpm never full throttle) I get about 15mpg in the city and close to 22mpg on the highway crusing at about 70-75. I spent a lot of time tuning with the haltech for normal driving conditions which is what probably explains the good gas mileage. Now if I get on it, I get about 1/2 tank per 5 miles, lol
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