J_J

http://www.griotsgarage.com/catalog.jsp?&SKU=10122

It looks like it would make oil changes very easy and quick to do but I don't know if it's capable of pulling out all the old oil. Anyone use this or a similar device?

poorboyracing

wow! looks like a great product!

FDNewbie

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Good stuff man. That would def. make it 10X easier for me to change my oil, since it's so freakin hard to get underneath my car w/ the body kit and all... Oh and that's the same company that makes the super low profile jack, too. Good company...

Sidenote: poorboyracing, do you have any other pics of your car and your rims? Looks sweet!

alberto_mg

um, no.

doubt its any better and probably takes longer cause you have to wait for that stupid **** to make its way out or sit there pumping till it does.

FDNewbie

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Well Alberto, if you knew how long it takes for me to raise my car (gotta raise it w/ the stock jack in the rear first, to get enough clearance to raise it w/ the mechanic jack in the front), and how long it takes me to bring it back down (gotta bring it down halfway in the front w/ the mechanic jack, then hold it in the rear w/ the stock jack, so I can let out the mechanic jack in the front, w/o the skirts coming down and being crushed by the mechanic jack, then I can let down the stock jack in the rear), you'd know that just pumping, then leaving it to fill on it's own wouldn't be bad at ALL for someone like me. Hell, I could pump, leave it to drain, and go do something in the meantime. Plus, that way you can drain the oil w/ the car level, so you're more liable to drain all of the oil, then leaving a good amount in an angle of the pan, due to the car being raised on a jack.

Oh and I don't think you have to keep pumping for it to fill. You basically create negative pressure, and once the oil gets going, it'll continue to come out until there's no oil left.

salamander

Get ramps. There about $20. If you you need the car level you should have plenty of room to use your mechanical jack on the rear.

FDNewbie

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I got ramps, and returned 'em. I got the ones w/ the extensions, and first, my tires were def. wider than the whole ramp lol, which got me pretty paranoid (245s in the front). Also, I dunno how you guys do it, but I can't manage to keep the ramps from sliding back as I drive up on 'em...and I'm not gonna have someone stick their foot there in the unlikely event something bad happens... Lastly, the low-clearance/extension ramps are STILL hard to get onto...my front bumper has VERY little clearance in the front.

When I don't feel like dealing w/ this whole ordeal, I just drive up to Jiffy Lube, where I know a couple of guys. They let me drive into the bay the wrong way about halfway lol (so I won't have clearance issues) and do my thing

the_glass_man

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Rhino Ramps work pretty good. Only if you have 255 series or smaller up front. Also you may have to drive on some blocks first to get up the ramps if you have a kit or you car is really low. I use some of my old Accounting books. (best use I've ever had for a $100 book) Rhino Ramps can be found for $19-$25 at lots of auto stores or your local evil Wal*Mart.

prew

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my jack doesnt fit under my car even with the bumpers off. i have wooden ramps, they were free to make and are easy to use.

FDNewbie

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How do you keep them in place, ie not sliding back when you try and drive up on 'em? The other prob I have is, with you in the driver's seat, how do you know how far up to go, if the wheels are centered and straight, etc etc. It's not something you can do yourself safetly, ya know? That's why this pump thing seems more and more like a good product to me...

1revn3rdgen

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Nice product.I would like to know anyone has one.

iluvmy3rdgen

As for piston motors they aren't good because they tend not to pick up the slight metal shavings that usually accumulate in the botttom of the oil pan. But i don't see why it wouldn't work since we have the apex seals on metal not metal on metal.

R. Gambino

Ive been using this product for 2 years. This thing is the best thing since sliced bread. You might find it cheaper at a boating supply shop or site (it's actually a boating accessory) The manufacturer is Tempo Products and it is called an "oil boy". I change my oil every 1K simply because its so easy. You have no idea how neat and uncomplicated an oil change can be.

Gamezilla

Um, what are apex seals made of?

scratchjunkie

this is ideal for the lazy man

mgoddard1

I have one and it works great. The trick is to warm up the car to thin the oil and stir up any sludge in the bottom first. You shove the hose down the dipstick hole, pump it up until there is a good vacuum and after a few minutes all the oil will be drained. It beats having to jack up the car to drain the oil.

Gamezilla

Its always a good idea to warm the car up before an oil change.

t-von

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His point was that in a piston engine, the metal shavings will go directly to the oil pan underneith and collect at the bottom. In a rotary this wont happen because how would the metal to metal shavings from the apex seals re-enter the oiling system? Think about it! Ususally if you find metal in rotary engines oil is because of the oil scraper rings of the rotors slightly scraping away the chrome on the side housing...not the apex seals.

TwinTurbo93

It's used by the boat owners, mostly, since they can't just open the drain plug and throw the oil out.
Not worth it,,,

iluvmy3rdgen

Thank you , there may have been confusion but the only oil that meets an apex seal in my mind is from pre-mix or the omp.

mike9164

what i think is really good about it is you can get the oil from around the drain plug that never comes out since the hole the plud goes into is a little raised up. if your car is level or on a tilt it will never get that oil out,you'd have to drop the pan to get it properly. imo

mike

R. Gambino

Man, if you feel your time is of such little value, you may come and change my oil and to really bring you joy I'll pay you less than minimum wage!

Sgtblue

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I doubt my car sits as low as FDNewbie's, but getting the car up on ramps (then stands) is still the biggest time consuming job for changing oil. I'm just not seeing the metal shavings thing as much of an issue. Use a good filter. And since the oil cooler(s) don't really drain anyway, possibly leaving behind a couple more ounces of oil is no big deal. It'd also be handy for draining the transmission and diff when it's time too. For those who tend to procrastinate, or who track their car and want/need to change more often, it could be a real plus.
Other than the cost, where's the downside?

FDNewbie

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Absolutely. I still haven't figured out how you guys get the car onto the ramps w/o having them slide back on you. You definitely need someone's help guiding you up the ramp, plus to hold the ramps in place (which is real difficult) etc. 99% of the time, me changing the oil on all the household cars is me doing it ALONE. No one's there to help out. So this product seems like a dream. While undoing the filter on one car, the other car is already draining, etc

seanbrowning

Yeah and its not even that expensive, add up time spent putting the car up to get to do the change and after a few changes you will have spent more than enough time to spend the money.