Kahren

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wonderign if anyone has a NA FD and the power it makes as well as handling and other quastions.
thanx

ilike2eatricers

all fds come with TT but making an fd NA would make it really slow.... i remember reading about someone with a NA fd

try searching

Kahren

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hey NewB go post somewhere else

ilike2eatricers

just because I have a low post count does not mean I'm a newb.

911GT2

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Kahren

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interesting, do u know anythign about that car, or how much power it makes, from just by looking at it doesnt tell u much ther then its NA

Shinobi-X

Right now I'm running no boost due to some damaged solenoids, so I guess I count as an N/A FD...but not for long.

Kahren

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lol were are not talkign about broken FDs here
what i am lookign for is a high power NA FD

GeeHee13B

high power and NA fd dont belong in the same sentance

Shinobi-X

I prefer to say "under the weather" instead of "broken". She is still in fairly good health.

Anyway, I know what you mean, but what's the interest in N/A 13B's anyway? If you can get your mits on a renesis, then that would be impressive, but without the turbos how much power are you looking at honestly making?

BOTTLEFED

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I had a NAFD one time. The doctor told me to put some salve on it and to wear a condom next time.

neoamd

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Not to be an ***, but WHY? If you want a N/A rotary go get a N/A FC or buy a RX-8. It came with turbos from the factory.. hmm maybe Mazda had a reason! Power Power Power! damn.. crazy people..

Can I put my shifter and its assembly on my steering wheel so i can shift faster?

Whats up with all the rearded questions lately?

wop

there are a small amount of NA FD's in japan (only read about 2-3)... NA rotories are way more reliable, lighter and plenty of power. why would you not want one?

Rated R1

There are some NA FD's rumored to have be in use for racing in classes where turbo cars are not permitted.

rynberg

This question doesn't have anything to do with FDs. You are essentially asking questions about a high-powered N/A 13B engine. You should post this in the Rotary Performance or 2nd Gen sections.

I doubt you can make much more than 220 hp (at the flywheel) with an N/A 13B, if you care about reliability. That is with a large streetport, intake, and full exhaust and no emissions....

The N/A guys will know better than us TT (or single) guys....

rynberg

It's called torque and power, something an N/A 13B doesn't have enough of.....

wop

torque out of a two rotor? where? 6k? no thanks...

and "enough" is a realaitve term...

why are all you FD guys elitist ******? big deal you have an FD, WTF?

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XSTransAm

makes the boards fun to read! ^^^

EUROX

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I remember reading about a NA FD that RE Amemiya built. It was red and blue. It was built back in 1996 or sometime around then. I believe I read that it is pushing about 400 horsepower? Wait, now I remember, it was a NA 20B engine.

tookwik

please dont take it personal WOP, we are not elitist ******. I dont know what car you drive (assuming FC) but we said nothing of any relevance to dissing on a NA 13b. We said it lacks the power and torque that it would have with a turbo. Simple!

wop

thanks. I am not taking it personally, but I have been reading this board for awhile and it seems like the FD crowd comes off as ******** most of the time... more so lately... and I don't get it... if you think a question is stupid then deal with it... or don't post or read it... no need to be a dick...

and it would lack power compared to a turbo version... but it would also lack the heat issue associated with the turbo cars... and it would lack the reliability problems as well...

a NA FD would be have reliability and modest power... not everyone has the dream of some monster street car... a NA FD would make for great fun and a solid car... good enough for the real world...

I currently drive a 2000 subaru wagon and am looking into a FD or FC for a project car...

BicuspiD

The lack of any significant eccentric shaft "throw" is the reason the low rpm torque characteristics of the rotary, are, well, anemic, to say the least. But who drives a rotary spiritedly at less than 4-5k rpms anyways? The RPM is the key, and where a rotary shines. Of course, driving it hard will most likely accelerate wear and drop the reliability factor way down unless maintenance is meticulous. Its a different kind of power delivery, so the driving has to be different. Just like a turbo car, you get caught in the wrong gear/rpm and it can be a dog.

As for the NA FD, it'd be kind of cool, been done in Japan before that I have seen. But rarely would you do a motor swap for a motor of less power and torque into a car, unless reliability was of the utmost importance.. All things being equal, for example, swapping in a 91 6 port motor into an FD, the weight savings would not offset the power loss.. Sure, reliability and cooling would be improved, and it would be a neat little car, but more a novelty. A stock fd with bad vacuum leaks would most likely beat on it. Not smoggable either.. Now, that same 91 motor in, say, an 83 GSL ... Build the motor and port it efficiently so that you could run ,say, 11k rpms That car would have some serious cajones.

As far as FD owners go, the majority I have met are down to earth, realistic, and mature. They realize the cars strong points, AND weaknesses, and don't go on and on about how its the greatest car ever made, yada yada. Of course there are exceptions, and the squeaky wheels get the grease (or the attention anyways).

and Wop, you know me.. I'm not an elitist... just a ***** And I'll be the first to admit your Subie would waste me in a race.
If it was raining. And on a dirt road. Headed downhill. With major vacuum leaks

|aFk| LiMiTz

Lol if you think this forum has got mean members...check out the stangforum...you post a vid of the stang losing and ur banned lol..

wop

true there are exceptions... I guess I am not as impressed with the FD as their owners are? maybe with all the hype I was expecting more? I mean c'mon vin won and got all the bitches, that is pretty hard to live up to...*

(^_^) or if it was in france for 24 hours... you really think your little 1.3 liters of thermo death will last at or around 7.5k for 24 hours of lemans?

ib787commentsitwasNA

and when you are up for it... i think I could take you at the small track at willow...

*just kidding about the TFATF, panty bunching not necessary...

adam c

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I had a street ported 13b in my 82 GSL. 225 fwhp. Only 30 less than a stock FD engine. That would move an FD pretty well.