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Old 09-19-05, 06:46 PM
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Angled IC idea

I have this idea for an angled IC, I was looking at a lot of V-mount and Flat - mount IC setups and I cant help thinking that there has to be some loss in airflow efficiency when it comes to the fins on the IC not facing the direct incoming airflow.
I suppose this is why I prefer a Front mount setup but my only issue with that is the lack of air getting to the RAD.

So I got to thinking that if there was some way you could fab up an angled IC ( angled end-tanks etc...) it might go some way to getting more air thought the IC in a flat or V mount setup.
If it did then you could look at useing it on mid and rear mounted engined cars as well ( MR2) as you could mount the IC more flush with the side of the car withour having to utelize long air ducts or long IC plumbing.

what do ya reckon? good idea or just to much work for little performance gains.

I have spoken to a local IC and Rad fabrication shop and the owner says that he would be prepared to have a go at one.
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sorry, heres a pic of my idea
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sounds intresting,,,give it a try,,,keep us posted
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I think you may be hard pressed to find an angled core like that. Good luck with that.
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Interesting thought but I think you could accomplish the same thing with a good duct.
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Originally Posted by tdazmansFD


I dont really like that idea, I dont see how you are gaining anything simply by having the IC "end-on' to the air with just a duct to push it down whereas with an angled IC the airflow would be optimal
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Originally Posted by spekdah
sorry, heres a pic of my idea
It's a neat idea. As others have stated, however, it may be difficult to convince an IC manufacturer to fabricate one for you.
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That seems like a good idea to me. I suppose it would cost more to manufacture them, but it seems like people would be willing to pay in various circumstances if there was a performance advantage.

I'd like to see some conjecture about their relative effectiveness versus a "normal" core in certain applications (say, a 45 degree mounting). Hard data would be even better. Anyone ever see a core like this?

If it works, you could also build cores for the other direction (think end tanks on top and bottom in your pic, or radiator mounted vertically but not perpendicular to car center line in a side pod on a formula car). An arc or semi-circle core might be interesting, too.

Or maybe they cost too much to make and don't really work any better. It seems like it might work to me, however.

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the angle will allow you to also increase the surface area ( size) of your IC core by maybe 2-3 extra rows useing side tanks ,there could be an increase of 10-12% whilst increasing room in your bay for the Radiator.
Even better - if one works well you could also make one large single Angled oil cooler and mount it below the AIC , depending on the angle who knows? you might fit a few of them in there depending on your application
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Seems like a lot of work and money for probably negligible gains, but it does look like a neat project.
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BTW, my national and international Patent for this idea has been processed,
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Originally Posted by spekdah
BTW, my national and international Patent for this idea has been processed,
well for starters you'll be hard presses to patent the idea, considering its been done before

what you've drawn is angled water tubes, but the most common are angled fins (either can be done)

most decent radiator manufacturers can design an angle radiator, or a stepped radiator (each successive water tube is further back ie look into the water tubes and its in the shape of steps) but the prices for these are nearly twice that of normal radiators because of their custom nature and increase manufacturing complexity
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