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Old 11-05-03, 11:29 AM
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i will post an update, my flight arrives in portland at 9:30 their time, then i'm goign to catch some sleep, and the motor teardown/rebuild starts tomorrow! i'm bringing my digi cam and lots of flash cards
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hopping on the plane wish me luck!!
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wooohoooo, okay, i'm at the hotel, we got upgraded to first class on the buddy pass, and upgraded to the king suite at the hotel

also got a free room service in the morning for up to $20

so far all is going well i'll post some pics tomorrrow
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Hey maybe you'll get upgraded to super mega pineapple port tomorrow to
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93BlackFD, let us know exactly what happened with your motor, and your experience at Pineapple, thanks.
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Hey I'm In portland....Who did you come up with??? and What are you doing for fun while your here?? if you need anything to do let me know.
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hey, maroon90GT4, call my cell 404-644-5412, we have to buy taxi's, etc, i brought my g/f (see my video thread of flames, she's the one w/ me)

we don't have anything to do, we check out of our hotel at 11am and from there we're screwed as far as a ride, getting dressed, eating, etc

so hit me up on the cell!! we're in the holiday inn right now but we'll be checked out soon and over at pineapple
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okay well i'm back in atlanta now, here are some beginning pics

pineapple's sign



rob's truck, clean isn't it?



my motor waiting for autopsy

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oil pan off, little bit of debris in the pickup tube...hmmmm



my clutch removed, bear in mind, 1500 miles on this setup....LOTS of wear hunh? let's investigate



notice the one side of the flywheel friction disc that is excessively worn, could that be a warped flywheel? but i thought racing beat was quality?? let's call them!

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breaking off the front bolt




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notice the scars on the side of the rotor and the bearing material on the center of the rotor

bearing failure, we're assuming oil starvation related


side plates are trashed







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so we tested the pressure regulator, oil pump, eccentric shaft jets, pretty much the entire oil path, everything checked out okay, the rear rotor is the first to be oiled, so we really can't determine what happened

possible theories: bad bearings, loss of oil pressure (sudden), trash in oil, bad oil, etc- again, just theories

i'm glad it wasn't detonation related, although a hard detonation could throw the bearings off and break them if they're already brittle- another theory

i had to cover up the port work in all of the pics, rob's request, but everything i paid for in the motor was there...everything was explained to me and i'm 100% satisfied with their shop, setup, expertise, and hospitality, so now for some pics of the shop and other goodies
Old 11-07-03, 01:43 PM
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Nice REPU! I saw that truck when it came back from the paint shop.

So your motor HAD the oil mods already?
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yeah, i had the stage3 oil mods, and they were all present, he explained each and every one to me, i was very satisifed
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Rotor housings anyone?




Single Rotor 60psi project e-shaft


4 Rotor E-Shaft, yummm


Periprhal Ports Anyone?


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Old 11-07-03, 03:09 PM
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Did he cover your motor under warranty?
Great pics by the way.
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Hey, several observations:

1. you have the orange silicone adhesive in the oil return line. Why use that stuff when there is a gasket there already? becareful with that stuff, it gets into the oil line and will cause engine damage. A friend threw a rod b/c of that stuff as he was overly paranoid about oil leak on the cam cover.

2. You don't have loctite glue on the flywheel to pressure plate screws: this is critical as the screws will loosen over time w/o loctite.

3. I'm running the same Pineapple clutch plate, RB flywheel and Centerforce Pressure plate: I feel that this clutch is not streetable, too much slippage required when hot. When cold, it's fine but when it's hot it's like a lightning switch. I'm going back to a full face clutch plate when this is worn out in like what 3 months?
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Thanks for sharing those pics.
Gees, those rotors and housings look spotless compared to my 25k mi Mazda Reman'! My rotors had so much carbon, they looked like a burned fireplace log.
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So did the motor end up being covered by warranty or what?
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rob has to tear it down further and look for further clues, we didn't really even talk about that- i assume it's warranty work

the orange stuff could do damage, but the pickup tube would filter any debris

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Originally posted by pomanferrari
Hey, several observations:

2. You don't have loctite glue on the flywheel to pressure plate screws: this is critical as the screws will loosen over time w/o loctite.




Sure I did, had to heat them up to remove them

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3. I'm running the same Pineapple clutch plate, RB flywheel and Centerforce Pressure plate: I feel that this clutch is not streetable, too much slippage required when hot. When cold, it's fine but when it's hot it's like a lightning switch. I'm going back to a full face clutch plate when this is worn out in like what 3 months?
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Well perhaps you should have your RB flywheel checked by Rob whenever you remove it, i'm sure RB would love to hear about another warped one
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Nobody notices the weird aspects of the secondary runners on this motor? Lack of lower exhaust ports on the plates? Nobody notices? I feel like i'm taking crazy pills!

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Originally posted by GoRacer
Hey maybe you'll get upgraded to super mega pineapple port tomorrow to
I forgot to mention, we loaded nocab72's port templates onto my motor- and started drawing bigger ideas

So through all these hardships, we'll see how this turns out


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