am I the o nly FD waiting on a motor from pineapple?
 

i just talked to rob, it will be two more weeks...i don't understand the hold up....all of my parts are in, joel told me he could build a motor in 45mins....

so why 2 weeks?? who else is waiting on a motor?

i waited on mine to be cleaned, rebuilt, and ported for about 1.5 months a while back so that's no surprise they're just busy i guess

the only thing left to do on my motor is porting/reassembly, i shipped it out on may 22nd

I have 2 motors Im waiting on. Its worth the wait, they do a great job.

Jason

It took 4 weeks for them to get my motor back to me. I think that is just standard for those guys.

How much boost can my mildly upgraded fuel system handle?
 

I spoke to my mechanic who is doing the R&R on my motor. He said that my turbos are still good. However they are showing signs of wear(50K miles), a little shaft play. He thinks they will die soon.

So if I am going to need to replace the turbos soon anyway, I'd like to have some fun with them. I am wondering how much boost can I safley get out of them. Properly tuned, of course. 17-18 psi??? Turbo life not a consideration.

I'd like to join the club of 400+ rwhp on stock twins.

I (will)have 1300cc secondaries 550cc primaries $ a Supra Fuel Pump along with all the other bolt on stuff:IC,Intake,HF Cat, Cat-Back, DP, Power FC, streetport.

Thanks!

John

uhh, that post is sorta out of place

It will be worth the wait, trust me.

Re: How much boost can my mildly upgraded fuel system handle?
 

SORRY! I'M A DORK. I was trying to start a new thread.... My bad.:D

first of all, porting is a quick job, second of all, I wouldn't want a motor that someone put together in 45 minutes. Rob did my motor last year, and did a great job, however, due to his increasing popularity, I have heard that he has gotten swamped, hired on a couple of guys that he can't always monitor and their quality of work has fallen quite severly. My buddy Jack's motor has been sent back to Rob for the second time now to be rebuilt.

Rob at Pineapple builds a lot of race motors. So when he is busy building those, engine building for the regular folks have to be on hold.

Just be patient.

Actually, Pineapple sent me 3 junk motors before I went to Rotary Performance for a motor that is doing great with about 4500 miles now. Once I get my pictures the whole expereience will be shared, myself and others have held back long enough now without things being made right - lets just say I have a $4800 set of rotary book ends from Pineapple.

Jack

I've witnessd all 3 of Trout's JUNK motors PLUS another of our members who who got one that smoked like a chimney but eventually got a good one out of them (so far). That makes 4 Junk motors in a row for Pineapple before they finally got one good one out.

and when were these motors received?

damn...that sucks....if i paid for a motor and got a POS id be ripping pissed off. I wonder if they have their lackeys doing them since their main man seems to be so busy as you all said.


j

That sucks! This the first bad press that I've read about Pineapple. I just hope my motor works out. I sure as hell don't want to spend the cash for the R&R.

Did anyone just do exhaust only porting? How much was the cryo' treatment? I'm sure he has help with the rebuilds with everyone sending their engines there at the same time and is evident on the porting in James's thread. I know i'd like to have mine done before 7Stock but it won't even be ready to ship before this weekend. Anyone wanna buy my rims to pay for my engine? :tear:

You guys need to quite buying into the hype...There are many very competent engine builders. I have been building motors for over 20 years and have never had one come back...(bridgeported, Nos, supercharged, turbo blocks etc...) I bet there are many that can make the same claim, you just don't hear about them.

1) You do NOT want an engine that has been put together in 45 minutes, period. Sure it's easy to do but not in my car. I want someone who takes a fair amount of time and is very methodical. The larger the volume the less attention your engine will likely recieve. (mass production). I have watched this over and over.

2) Porting is not some magical secret. I have port templates from almost every hipo shop you can think of all the way back to the Rotary Engineering days. Some are conservative, some wild. You match the ports to the type of set up and hp the individual wants, the engine WILL make the power.

3) Extended warranties are BS. If the engine was build correctly it will stay together. Notice the discalimer. They have to INSPECT the engine and will determine if it was a fault of theirs, guess what they will find ...? you overboosted, ran out of oil, overheated the engine etc. (Which is probably the case). It's an easy way to make money.

4) Cryogenic horse sh*#. This my friends takes the cake. I won't even get into this one, land for sale in Florida?


Lastly, I sit in dismay as I read about some unknowing ignorant soul sending his engine to X shop 1000 miles away because he read something from some guys thread here on the forum.
Do a little homework when your engine goes...

I did my homework and still got burned. I knew of Rob having a stellar reputation for many years before this forum started hyping him.

I have no doubt that Rob Golden, himself, can build a good engine but in these cases he "supposedly" did not actually assemble the motors. These motors were received between May 2002 and February 2003. Rob told me he didn't oversee building of my engines and later admited to having an employee that is no longer there who was throwing stuff together.

I believe this is a case of very bad business. Sometimes the best mechanics can make the worst business owners. Myslef and two others I know of have held off bringing this public in hopes that the situation would be resolved.

If I had any clue my car would be down for almost almost 20 months, I would have researched and built the motor myself. Hell, I could have screwed up 3 times and come out ahead. Some of life's hard lessons are more than expensive than others, especially when it comes to modifying cars.

I've held out long enough, my whole expereience will be published before the end of this week. Gonna take a while to type this one and post pictures.

Jack

I sure hope so. I just wish I was told up-front how long it would really take. I was origianally told 2-3 weeks, and then each week it was "1 more week". It ended up being 10 weeks, and I'll be beyond rage if I get a POS motor that others have complained about.

this is the exact reason my mechanic judge ito only does rebuilds himself this way he knows it is done 100% correctly......... i LOVE MY ENGINE that he built worth every penny :)

i have seen lots of horror stories from many shops.... that is another thing judge ito is one of the most honest mechanics i have ever dealt with! i guess that is why he built my car and i put all the mods on at his shop :D

it still sux to hear about pineapple but you are only as good as your worst product..... :(

Im pretty sure chronos is getting a engine done by them but it is late in delivery. He is on vacation in maui but will be in oahu next week. I only know of 1 other forum member that got an engine from pineapple done and it was crap (although i think they replaced it for free which was pretty good of them if they did replace it for free). They are still the number one builders that I know of and would probally send my engine to them if I was sticking with a rotary.

that blows
I hope you guys get your motors back soon and they are solid

I've also heard some things months back about pineapple. I was thinking about having them do a motor for me but this news and the distance takes them off the list now. I'm going to go with my local mechanic and rebiuld the motor together with him hopefully.

BTW I'm VERY happy with the Pettit mild streetport 3mm seals engine I have. Ask anyone else with the same motor and they'll agree.

Welps...my engine got rebuilt in March of 03...didn't get it back till April. Rob did a pretty good job of it as far as I can tell..and I've posted pics already of the job.

I haven't gottent to spend much time with the car, thanks to the rebuilding process, and the fact that I shipped out to the UK a month later, but I'm very satisfied with the work done on it.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...b/fc8eea3c.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...0/fc8eea33.jpg


Rob did mention to me about how EXTREMELY busy he is, and how he's losing business because of how long it's taking thanks to the trouble with that former employee. I'd say..if you want it done without worries, learn how to do it yourself, step by step....so that you have no question on how it's done.

If you can't do that..well..you've just gotta do some research and figure out who's who..and what you're willing to spend and wait for.

Sorry, bro...

well i just called rob and explained to him that i *must* get the motor by the promised date (8th) and not the newly issued 15th....he said it would be no problem, and he said "i'll have it to you before the 8th"

wheeeeeeeeee