Almost got my FD passing CA smog. Need help on final items.
03-28-11, 05:40 PM
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Almost got my FD passing CA smog. Need help on final items.
Hi Guys,
I've been trying to get my FD to pass CA smog. What a nightmare. It has a lot of mods when I purchased it, so my mechanic Stanley at ProInspections has done a lot to get it almost passable.
I need it to drive around now so I need to do what's necessary to get it registered.
So far he's put in 2 new Catalytic converters and an O2 sensor which made a huge difference but still not there yet. He also removed the Remapped ECU and bypassed/disconnected the Air/Fuel controller and put a stock ECU in. This also helped and it is very close now but still needs more.
He is looking to put in a stock fuel pump which I thought was already stock but can't be certain. Could dirty injectors be an issue? If so, how would he test for this? What other items would you suggest we look at?
A list of mods that were given to me when I purchased it are below.
Thanks for any help/suggestions you can give.
Mods:
Steering Column Mounted Pettit Racing Boost Gauge
Apexi Dual Intake
GReddy FMIC with custom piping
GReddy Elbow
JDM Efini Y -Pipe
Apexi Air/Fuel Controller (bypassed)
GReddy Boost Controller
Profec Type S Remanned Stock Twins Non-Sequential Remapped ECU by Rotary Performance (bypassed)
PWR Racing Radiator
Pettit Racing AST
Custom Enlarged Tail Pipe
I've been trying to get my FD to pass CA smog. What a nightmare. It has a lot of mods when I purchased it, so my mechanic Stanley at ProInspections has done a lot to get it almost passable.
I need it to drive around now so I need to do what's necessary to get it registered.
So far he's put in 2 new Catalytic converters and an O2 sensor which made a huge difference but still not there yet. He also removed the Remapped ECU and bypassed/disconnected the Air/Fuel controller and put a stock ECU in. This also helped and it is very close now but still needs more.
He is looking to put in a stock fuel pump which I thought was already stock but can't be certain. Could dirty injectors be an issue? If so, how would he test for this? What other items would you suggest we look at?
A list of mods that were given to me when I purchased it are below.
Thanks for any help/suggestions you can give.
Mods:
Steering Column Mounted Pettit Racing Boost Gauge
Apexi Dual Intake
GReddy FMIC with custom piping
GReddy Elbow
JDM Efini Y -Pipe
Apexi Air/Fuel Controller (bypassed)
GReddy Boost Controller
Profec Type S Remanned Stock Twins Non-Sequential Remapped ECU by Rotary Performance (bypassed)
PWR Racing Radiator
Pettit Racing AST
Custom Enlarged Tail Pipe
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03-28-11, 10:28 PM
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My FD just passed Colorado Emissions (not sure how the limits vary) with just an OEM main cat, functioning air pump, and stock ECU/fuel system. I also lowered the boost by removing the pills in the w/g actuator lines.
Mods were Pettit 3" dp (no pre-cat), Blitz NUR spec catback, GReddy intakes, and Pettit Charge Cool II SMIC. I actually passed pretty easily. I also drove the car on the highway for about 35 miles to make sure the main cat was good and hot. Hope this helps.
Mods were Pettit 3" dp (no pre-cat), Blitz NUR spec catback, GReddy intakes, and Pettit Charge Cool II SMIC. I actually passed pretty easily. I also drove the car on the highway for about 35 miles to make sure the main cat was good and hot. Hope this helps.
03-29-11, 01:16 AM
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some other things to do: change the spark plugs, oil, and clean your air filters. run no or less premix.
The only other thing that concerns me is that you have the apexi intake and I know that shouldn't pass visual.
If you are having problems with your air pump or air control valve, you should read the service highlights. tons of info there. also arghx had a good post on them.
good luck and check your egr valve.
03-29-11, 02:25 AM
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Very true, also OP. Do you still have the air pump??? if not you could install a temp one like i did, i got mine from a s10 pick up (GM) and ran a line to the cat plus Ethanol and mine passed with flying colors, even lower that what its required
He doesnt need to drain the thank to add it, he can do it by just having 1/4 of gas left and as soon as he passes go fill the thank with new gas, thats what i did and it worked fine.
You guys dont have emissions in florida????? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!! no wonder why so many 20b swaps there lol. The only way to get away with that here is by having your car registered and insuranced as classic/collector witch im doing 
03-29-11, 09:21 AM
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Wow, I just did one a couple months back. It failed 8 tries mainly because I was hardheaded and wanted it to pass with the PFC but I could never get the tune exactly right for both 15MPH and 25MPH. It would get it for one or the other. It passed on the 9th when I finally gave up and put the stock ECU back and undid the fuel pump mod. By then I had:
>New coil wires (NGK sold at Rotary Performance)
>New plugs (7L/9T)
>Checked air pump output pressure according to manual
>New bonez OEM cat (not the high flow; 400 dollars from Rotary Performance)
>New split air check valve (at the cat; mine was missing it but passed in the past without it)
>New port air check valve (circular diaphragm behind ACV)
>New O2 sensor (generic Bosch bought on Amazon)
>Capped the purge solenoid (I always do this for the test)
>Pulled the vacuum leading to the ACV vent (farthest on the right side of the ACV; not sure it will affect anything but just in case that guy was venting unnecessarily during the test somehow-disclaimer: do not drive above 3000 RPM when this is pulled!)
>Cleaned out the EGR valve (physically with a pick tool and with brake cleaner)
>Check every emissions related solenoid with 12V power supply for switching
>Check every one way check valve in the rats nest that could affect an emissions component.
>Check ACV operation when provided vacuum (requires removal of ACV to be sure the plungers move)
>Changed the oil
>Check the EGR operation
>Ran some Guaranteed to Pass
>Steam cleaned the engine
I would attribute passing to all the new gear (wires, plugs, cat) and maybe the cleaning of the EGR, though I'm told you should be able to pass with it removed completely.
I did not end up having to put anything odd in the gas tank. This is a street ported engine with DP, RB dual, on 99 twins, twin power, HKS intake, GReddy SMIC, stock injectors. This is how well it did:
I'm not certain it needs a stock fuel pump but at 33 bucks a smog test, it wouldn't hurt to NOT have to find out a few tests down the line since those tests might have paid for it.
Double check that airpump as everyone else has stated. Make sure it is actually pushing split air at the correct RPM and has the correct pressure at idle. You can't check for port air operation but you can check for split. I ran the hose into the cabin through the shifter well to physically check with my hands as I drove the car. A loose ACV nut cost me 2 smog tests because all the airpump air was vented. I did not figure this out until I tested with the split air hose running into the cabin.
As always, keep the car running at the station. You don't need to run anything other than our shitty CA 91 octane. Good luck!
>New coil wires (NGK sold at Rotary Performance)
>New plugs (7L/9T)
>Checked air pump output pressure according to manual
>New bonez OEM cat (not the high flow; 400 dollars from Rotary Performance)
>New split air check valve (at the cat; mine was missing it but passed in the past without it)
>New port air check valve (circular diaphragm behind ACV)
>New O2 sensor (generic Bosch bought on Amazon)
>Capped the purge solenoid (I always do this for the test)
>Pulled the vacuum leading to the ACV vent (farthest on the right side of the ACV; not sure it will affect anything but just in case that guy was venting unnecessarily during the test somehow-disclaimer: do not drive above 3000 RPM when this is pulled!)
>Cleaned out the EGR valve (physically with a pick tool and with brake cleaner)
>Check every emissions related solenoid with 12V power supply for switching
>Check every one way check valve in the rats nest that could affect an emissions component.
>Check ACV operation when provided vacuum (requires removal of ACV to be sure the plungers move)
>Changed the oil
>Check the EGR operation
>Ran some Guaranteed to Pass
>Steam cleaned the engine
I would attribute passing to all the new gear (wires, plugs, cat) and maybe the cleaning of the EGR, though I'm told you should be able to pass with it removed completely.
I did not end up having to put anything odd in the gas tank. This is a street ported engine with DP, RB dual, on 99 twins, twin power, HKS intake, GReddy SMIC, stock injectors. This is how well it did:
I'm not certain it needs a stock fuel pump but at 33 bucks a smog test, it wouldn't hurt to NOT have to find out a few tests down the line since those tests might have paid for it.
Double check that airpump as everyone else has stated. Make sure it is actually pushing split air at the correct RPM and has the correct pressure at idle. You can't check for port air operation but you can check for split. I ran the hose into the cabin through the shifter well to physically check with my hands as I drove the car. A loose ACV nut cost me 2 smog tests because all the airpump air was vented. I did not figure this out until I tested with the split air hose running into the cabin.
As always, keep the car running at the station. You don't need to run anything other than our shitty CA 91 octane. Good luck!
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this is the key right here. i had to plug the vent on a friends FC, and once it hit like 3000 it popped the plug right out! we had to go back and clamp it in, and drive slow....
03-29-11, 06:40 PM
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You guys rock!
Thanks for your help guys.
We'll definitely try all the above.
If anyone else has any idea's please don't hesitate to add your thoughts. It's greatly appreciated.
Sebastian
We'll definitely try all the above.
If anyone else has any idea's please don't hesitate to add your thoughts. It's greatly appreciated.
Sebastian
03-31-11, 10:06 PM
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Can you scan a copy of the dyno test results? Would help to narrow down the problem. I went thru this almost 2 years ago. I passed with a Power FC, 20+k mile street port rebuilt motor (used housings, irons, etc.), stock cat, NO precat, non-seq twins, 3" M2 exhaust, stock mount IC, 91 oct, supra fuel pump, 1300 cc secondary injectors, m2 airbox, 7 leading, 9 trailing plugs, fresh oil, PCV valve intact, purge control intact, ACV new gaskets, ACV plumbing and solenoids verified to work (at room temperature), air pump working and plumbed, check valve @ air pump was fine, blah blah. I leaned out the fuel on the PFC to about 15-16:1 and my CO was literally 0. NOx was pretty high however. HC was well below limit.
If your air/fuel ratios are off of stoich (14.7:1) it will affect your results quite a bit. See chart below. Do you have a wideband on your car?
If your air/fuel ratios are off of stoich (14.7:1) it will affect your results quite a bit. See chart below. Do you have a wideband on your car?