With all this talk of engine conversions...
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With all this talk of engine conversions...
...what about a boxer six from a Porsche? Either in NA form capable of up to 350hp on the 3.8ltr engines, or capable of 600+ reliable and streetable hp. The best thing is, they sound amazing! Well, actually the best thing probably is there low center of gravity, and their short configuration.. Fairly reliable, but parts and the engine itself is expensive.. so who's going to try it first?
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With all the "simplification" guys out there, it seems like putting an aircooled 6 in would be the best idea. Not even a radiator to worry about.
For my conversion I really like TORQUE, and I'd like to do a little towing, so I'm gonna put in a new 6.0 Ford Diesel, 325hp STOCK, 15mpg in a 8000lb truck. The engine will last well over 200K. I've got the motor ready to go in, all I have to do is come up with some type of front suspension to hold up the front of the car and find a way to fit the trans under the firewall. Oh yeah, and deal with the 1000lbft of torque it'll have.
Seriously. Stop with all the bullshit people, Viper V10, 4age, Porsche flat6, Supra motors.... Get a freakin' grip on reality. Anything CAN be done. But more importantly, should it be done? Flat 6? NO. Turbo 4? NO. Supra motor? NO.
V8, I can at least rationalize this to some degree.
Jeff
Prove me wrong. I'll buy your FD when you decide to give up.
For my conversion I really like TORQUE, and I'd like to do a little towing, so I'm gonna put in a new 6.0 Ford Diesel, 325hp STOCK, 15mpg in a 8000lb truck. The engine will last well over 200K. I've got the motor ready to go in, all I have to do is come up with some type of front suspension to hold up the front of the car and find a way to fit the trans under the firewall. Oh yeah, and deal with the 1000lbft of torque it'll have.
Seriously. Stop with all the bullshit people, Viper V10, 4age, Porsche flat6, Supra motors.... Get a freakin' grip on reality. Anything CAN be done. But more importantly, should it be done? Flat 6? NO. Turbo 4? NO. Supra motor? NO.
V8, I can at least rationalize this to some degree.
Jeff
Prove me wrong. I'll buy your FD when you decide to give up.
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Originally posted by Barban
wow, i bet that wouldnt take much fab to put in
and while im on this subject i will just take a second to flame supra7's
2gzgte=gay
wow, i bet that wouldnt take much fab to put in
and while im on this subject i will just take a second to flame supra7's
2gzgte=gay
2Jz-gte=get it str8, and do right the first time
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Originally posted by turbojeff
For my conversion I really like TORQUE, and I'd like to do a little towing, so I'm gonna put in a new 6.0 Ford Diesel, 325hp STOCK, 15mpg in a 8000lb truck. The engine will last well over 200K. I've got the motor ready to go in, all I have to do is come up with some type of front suspension to hold up the front of the car and find a way to fit the trans under the firewall. Oh yeah, and deal with the 1000lbft of torque it'll have.
For my conversion I really like TORQUE, and I'd like to do a little towing, so I'm gonna put in a new 6.0 Ford Diesel, 325hp STOCK, 15mpg in a 8000lb truck. The engine will last well over 200K. I've got the motor ready to go in, all I have to do is come up with some type of front suspension to hold up the front of the car and find a way to fit the trans under the firewall. Oh yeah, and deal with the 1000lbft of torque it'll have.
I think I'm gonna put my mercury outboard from our boat in my 7.
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Originally posted by CJarrett
I didn't say I'd do it.. I was just implying it would be a good conversion (performance wise). Don't get your panties in a bunch
I didn't say I'd do it.. I was just implying it would be a good conversion (performance wise). Don't get your panties in a bunch
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Originally posted by FDA80
Im with ya. ****, reliability wise also. Ill have my Fd soon and will be swapping in a 2jz. I dont care what anybody thinks. 2JZ+SP66= a bad *** fd3s imo...if i can get traction
Im with ya. ****, reliability wise also. Ill have my Fd soon and will be swapping in a 2jz. I dont care what anybody thinks. 2JZ+SP66= a bad *** fd3s imo...if i can get traction
-pete
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I've been thinking about the Powerstroke conversion for my FD, I'm changin' my mind. I'm gonna throw in a E46 M3 motor in the front and a WRX motor in the back...
The power of all wheel drive will solve any traction problems. The boxter WRX motor will fit nicely under the floor in back, the BMW 6 will fit (barely) under the hood.
It is gonna be a BADASS FD, I'll race anyone that thinks they can pull me.
The only reason I don't want to go with the Powerstroke is because I don't really like the smell of diesel. Otherwise this is really an excellent choice for a motor swap in a FD. No other motor can beat it's torque, reliability and mileage. Can you say 400lbft of torque at 1300rpm, before mods?
Jeff
Tired of the naysayers, I'm getting out the torch.
The power of all wheel drive will solve any traction problems. The boxter WRX motor will fit nicely under the floor in back, the BMW 6 will fit (barely) under the hood.
It is gonna be a BADASS FD, I'll race anyone that thinks they can pull me.
The only reason I don't want to go with the Powerstroke is because I don't really like the smell of diesel. Otherwise this is really an excellent choice for a motor swap in a FD. No other motor can beat it's torque, reliability and mileage. Can you say 400lbft of torque at 1300rpm, before mods?
Jeff
Tired of the naysayers, I'm getting out the torch.
#12
. . . *sigh*
This topic should be deleted, why would you want to put a piston motor in a rx-7 anyway!!! If you want a 2jz-gte buy a Supra they come with them stock!!! wow what a shocker and guess what they have the same power as if you were to put one in a rx-7! GASP!!
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If you have nothing intelligent to say, don't say it at all, thats great, you all love the rotary, but don't diss someone just thinking aloud. None of you have given a reason why it wouldn't be a good idea except for you can't afford it..
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Maybe cause i like reliability, something the fd isnt. Maybe i like doing motor swaps. Maybe i dont want a big *** tank supra. Maybe i can have the best of both worlds for less than the price of a mkiv supra...lets think. Thats my opinion. Also, i aint no dumb *** newbie..im familiar with both cars. I didnt come on this board to fight.
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Re: . . . *sigh*
Originally posted by ShortBusRiot
This topic should be deleted, why would you want to put a piston motor in a rx-7 anyway!!! If you want a 2jz-gte buy a Supra they come with them stock!!! wow what a shocker and guess what they have the same power as if you were to put one in a rx-7! GASP!!
This topic should be deleted, why would you want to put a piston motor in a rx-7 anyway!!! If you want a 2jz-gte buy a Supra they come with them stock!!! wow what a shocker and guess what they have the same power as if you were to put one in a rx-7! GASP!!
ya i know. 320hp and 2800lbs...im gonna love it
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its not the motor that is not reliable its the lack of knowledge U have that makes it unreliable, bad tunning blows up cars, U fuckign with it blows up cars, stop bashing onteh rotary if you dont liek it why teh **** buy this car? do u know anythign about rx7 history AND teh rotary engien that is in it i doubt you do otherwise you woudl enver try to swap it out for somethign else. you are killign the car, if u want something that goes fast starigth get a car more applicable and suitable for that, and plese dont tell taht you can put a boxer engien in it and it will eb as good, you are not a better engineer then teh team taht worked on mazda.
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Wana swap an engine do it with the same brand then.... put in a cosmo engine with big single T88 and u will fly.......swaping ain't bad in my thoughts but never take another brand engine in the car u got. U got an Mazda, swap a mazdaengine, u got a Audi swap and Audi engine........get it!!! Just my thought.
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Don't put a 2Jz-gte in a FD. They barely fit. I only seen one FD with that engine in it and they did a **** load of modifications. It's a waste of money. Mr-Mago is correct about sticking with the same brand. If u want a better engine than the 13brew that is more reliable wait till the renesis comes out but the 13brew can handle a **** load of power.
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Personally I'm considering putting a 2.5 HP Briggs and Straton engine in my FD. It's very simple (air cooled and carbureted), so it will increase the reliability a lot. Plus, it will get excellent fuel economy. And you can get parts for it at your local hardware store! It also has a huge weight advantage over a 13B. I just have to figure out a way to lighten the back end to retain the 50/50 distribution. Does anyone have any ideas? What kind of a tranny do you think I should use? Maybe the belt drive tranny from my craftsman riding lawnmower will work.
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Re: . . . *sigh*
Which direction do modern Porsche motors turn?
From memory (which could clearly be wrong)
911 motors turn counterclockwise. You'd have
to fix that to make it work in an FD. They are
also fairly wide, so it might be hard (read impossible)
to put one in place of the 13b-rew. That, combined
with the cooling issue may help explain why
Porsche had never felt the need to use that
motor in any of their front engined cars.
From memory (which could clearly be wrong)
911 motors turn counterclockwise. You'd have
to fix that to make it work in an FD. They are
also fairly wide, so it might be hard (read impossible)
to put one in place of the 13b-rew. That, combined
with the cooling issue may help explain why
Porsche had never felt the need to use that
motor in any of their front engined cars.
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Re: . . . *sigh*
Originally posted by ShortBusRiot
This topic should be deleted, why would you want to put a piston motor in a rx-7 anyway!!! If you want a 2jz-gte buy a Supra they come with them stock!!! wow what a shocker and guess what they have the same power as if you were to put one in a rx-7! GASP!!
This topic should be deleted, why would you want to put a piston motor in a rx-7 anyway!!! If you want a 2jz-gte buy a Supra they come with them stock!!! wow what a shocker and guess what they have the same power as if you were to put one in a rx-7! GASP!!
From memory (which could clearly be wrong)
911 motors turn counterclockwise. You'd have
to fix that to make it work in an FD. They are
also fairly wide, so it might be hard (read impossible)
to put one in place of the 13b-rew. That, combined
with the cooling issue may help explain why
Porsche had never felt the need to use that
motor in any of their front engined cars.
#23
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Re: . . . *sigh*
Originally posted by ShortBusRiot
This topic should be deleted, why would you want to put a piston motor in a rx-7 anyway!!! If you want a 2jz-gte buy a Supra they come with them stock!!! wow what a shocker and guess what they have the same power as if you were to put one in a rx-7! GASP!!
This topic should be deleted, why would you want to put a piston motor in a rx-7 anyway!!! If you want a 2jz-gte buy a Supra they come with them stock!!! wow what a shocker and guess what they have the same power as if you were to put one in a rx-7! GASP!!
From memory (which could clearly be wrong)
911 motors turn counterclockwise. You'd have
to fix that to make it work in an FD. They are
also fairly wide, so it might be hard (read impossible)
to put one in place of the 13b-rew. That, combined
with the cooling issue may help explain why
Porsche had never felt the need to use that
motor in any of their front engined cars.
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Re: Re: . . . *sigh*
Originally posted by doctorzaius
Which direction do modern Porsche motors turn?
From memory (which could clearly be wrong)
911 motors turn counterclockwise. You'd have
to fix that to make it work in an FD. They are
also fairly wide, so it might be hard (read impossible)
to put one in place of the 13b-rew. That, combined
with the cooling issue may help explain why
Porsche had never felt the need to use that
motor in any of their front engined cars.
Which direction do modern Porsche motors turn?
From memory (which could clearly be wrong)
911 motors turn counterclockwise. You'd have
to fix that to make it work in an FD. They are
also fairly wide, so it might be hard (read impossible)
to put one in place of the 13b-rew. That, combined
with the cooling issue may help explain why
Porsche had never felt the need to use that
motor in any of their front engined cars.
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Re: Re: Re: . . . *sigh*
Originally posted by Rated R1
Wow a triple post!
Wow a triple post!
Maybe a friendly moderator can clean up my
gaff.