3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002) 1993-2002 Discussion including performance modifications and Technical Support Sections.
Sponsored by:

Airbag light Flashes 10 times, then pauses and repeats... problem?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-22-05, 07:48 PM
  #1  
FD Under Construction =P

Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dhahlen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Avondale, AZ
Posts: 4,030
Received 24 Likes on 9 Posts
Airbag light Flashes 10 times, then pauses and repeats... problem?

Ok.. don't know what the problem is, but the light flashes 10 times, stops, then repeats. I figure it's a sensor problem, or wiring or something... no clue what to do.

Any ideas?

Thanks
-Darren-
Old 09-22-05, 08:38 PM
  #2  
This is your exit

iTrader: (5)
 
NCMontegott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: north carolina
Posts: 287
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
have you reset the 10 year clock on the srs system??
Old 09-22-05, 08:51 PM
  #3  
Civilization is crumblin

iTrader: (3)
 
Heisenberg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: eL lAY
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I coulde be wrong but it sounds like its throwing a code. Maybe you should see if you can find a list of SRS codes and see what 10 is.
Old 09-22-05, 09:19 PM
  #4  
Senior Member

 
FlameThrowingRotary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Temple Tx
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
yeah it's a code, when my tire rubbed through my fender well it cut the air bag wires and now my car beeps 5 times 5 times. seems like I read somthing on the sun visor or manual about how many beeps and how many times to diagnose it.
Old 09-22-05, 09:41 PM
  #5  
Out of the game

iTrader: (1)
 
tdazmansFD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Reno NV
Posts: 637
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Take a look at the wiring manual for the problem. Yes that is a code! I'd look for you but I don't have it on hand. You can download an electrical diagam from this site.
Old 09-22-05, 10:02 PM
  #6  
FD Under Construction =P

Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dhahlen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Avondale, AZ
Posts: 4,030
Received 24 Likes on 9 Posts
Yeah my turbo melted my wires, but i re-spliced them and cut the burnt ones. Dunno what it is now... car works, it's just annoying, lol.
Old 09-22-05, 10:29 PM
  #7  
Warming the planet.

 
Gadd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chico, CA
Posts: 845
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
10 flashes is a blown fuse in the diagnstic module. I dont think that unit is serviceable, and you'll need to find the short.

Old 09-23-05, 02:01 AM
  #8  
FD Under Construction =P

Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dhahlen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Avondale, AZ
Posts: 4,030
Received 24 Likes on 9 Posts
Hrmm, "Diagnostic Module" <-- pretty general

What's this? or more specifically... where is this? I've never had to deal with one =P
Old 09-23-05, 07:13 PM
  #9  
Warming the planet.

 
Gadd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Chico, CA
Posts: 845
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
The Diagnostic Module for the air bag is a black box under the dash on the drivers side with a big yellow sticker on it.
Old 09-23-05, 07:37 PM
  #10  
Junior Member

 
coltrane69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: mich.
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've been dealing with 3 flashes, and all signs are now pointing to my air bag diagnostic module being the problem.

Your 10 flashes indicates a blown system down fuse in the diag module. The system down Fuse is not a conventional removable fuse, it's basically a resistor soldered to the circuit board.

Even if you took it somewhere to have the fuse replaced, until you figure out why it blew more than likely It'll just blow again. The fuse blows when it senses one of the "D sensors" (crash Sensors) has a short or different resistance than normal. If you have a multimeter you can check the sensors and wiring to see where the problem lies.

I uploaded the pages from the workshop manual that list the checking procedure.

EDIT: I forgot to mention you must disconnect the negative battery wire before testing any component in the SRS system. Also after disconnecting the battery its a good Idea to disconnect the Air bag clock spring connectors.... The Orange and Blue wiring connectors right underneath the steering wheel.
Attached Thumbnails Airbag light Flashes 10 times, then pauses and repeats... problem?-10-flashes-b.jpg   Airbag light Flashes 10 times, then pauses and repeats... problem?-10-flashes.jpg  

Last edited by coltrane69; 09-23-05 at 07:49 PM.
Old 09-23-05, 08:32 PM
  #11  
FD Under Construction =P

Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dhahlen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Avondale, AZ
Posts: 4,030
Received 24 Likes on 9 Posts
it blew because my turbo melted the wires and the pos and negative crossed, lol
thanks for the info, maybe i can just replace the whole thing?>
Old 09-23-05, 09:47 PM
  #12  
Senior Member

 
FlameThrowingRotary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Temple Tx
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
whats the d-sensor? mine beeps 5 times 5 times.
Old 09-23-05, 10:16 PM
  #13  
Junior Member

 
coltrane69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: mich.
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by dhahlen
it blew because my turbo melted the wires and the pos and negative crossed, lol
thanks for the info, maybe i can just replace the whole thing?>
Yeah that's the route I'm trying to go. I think there are a couple guy's on here that have them for the 93's. I'm having a hell of a time finding one for my 94(dual air bags). Id like to just replace the Diag unit with a used one but it's starting to look like might have to try and find some one that can fix my current one.
Old 09-23-05, 10:28 PM
  #14  
Junior Member

 
coltrane69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: mich.
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by FlameThrowingRotary
whats the d-sensor? mine beeps 5 times 5 times.
The D sensors are impact sensors that trigger your air bag to go off, there are 3 of them in the front of our cars right, center, and left.
5 flashes indicates a damaged D sensor or short in the wiring Harness.

I don't know if you have the service manual or not but I attached the service procedure for 5 flashes. And a scan of the location of the D sensors.

Good Luck
Attached Thumbnails Airbag light Flashes 10 times, then pauses and repeats... problem?-5-flashes.jpg   Airbag light Flashes 10 times, then pauses and repeats... problem?-d-sensor-location.jpg  
Old 09-29-05, 04:36 PM
  #15  
Junior Member

 
coltrane69's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: mich.
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Just an update, I was able to repair my Air bag diagnostic module. I was getting 3 flashes and basically found that the diagnostic module was at fault. I took the module out of the car and opened it up. After a close visual inspection, I found that one of the main capacitors had scorched the board and was bad.

It cost me $2.25 plus shipping for the capacitor, and took me about 10mins to fix. Sure beats the hell out of $750 for a new module from the dealership. And I couldn't even find a used one for a 94'. Needless to say I'm pretty happy. No more Frickin flashing light.
Old 09-29-05, 04:57 PM
  #16  
FD Under Construction =P

Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dhahlen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Avondale, AZ
Posts: 4,030
Received 24 Likes on 9 Posts
Fritz has them for $50 shipped =P

Good call, I should do that with mine too!
Old 09-29-05, 05:30 PM
  #17  
Rotary Enthusiast

 
PhatManBUD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: S.Cali, OC!
Posts: 1,468
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
it means its gonna blow up in your face one day when youre driving and youre not gonna know what to do!
Old 09-29-05, 06:34 PM
  #18  
one part from Nirvana

iTrader: (3)
 
rotoober's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: in a van by the river
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I had a similar problem, could not figure out what the problem was. Then the horn and the cruise control went out - clockspring in the steering wheel! Bought one from Fritz, solved the problem.
Old 08-04-07, 01:08 AM
  #19  
just dont care.

iTrader: (6)
 
jacobcartmill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 9,387
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by rotoober
I had a similar problem, could not figure out what the problem was. Then the horn and the cruise control went out - clockspring in the steering wheel! Bought one from Fritz, solved the problem.

holy crap this explains why my cruise control has been going on and off randomly... i bet this would also explain why the airbasg light is flashing; something is shorted in the clock spring and the airbag connection isnt making it down to the other end of the harness... ahh

could this cause my 5 flashes though? (5 indicates a bad crash sensor in the front)
Old 08-04-07, 03:41 PM
  #20  
just dont care.

iTrader: (6)
 
jacobcartmill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 9,387
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
anyone have any info on this?
Old 08-04-07, 04:07 PM
  #21  
FD Under Construction =P

Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dhahlen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Avondale, AZ
Posts: 4,030
Received 24 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by rotoober
I had a similar problem, could not figure out what the problem was. Then the horn and the cruise control went out - clockspring in the steering wheel! Bought one from Fritz, solved the problem.
I replaced the airbag line.. fixed the problem....

Holy thread resurrection
Old 08-04-07, 10:47 PM
  #22  
just dont care.

iTrader: (6)
 
jacobcartmill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 9,387
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by dhahlen
I replaced the airbag line.. fixed the problem....

Holy thread resurrection


whats "the airbag line." ?


also: upon further review, i have 6 flashes, not 5.
Old 08-04-07, 11:26 PM
  #23  
FD Under Construction =P

Thread Starter
iTrader: (5)
 
dhahlen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Avondale, AZ
Posts: 4,030
Received 24 Likes on 9 Posts
Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
whats "the airbag line." ?


also: upon further review, i have 6 flashes, not 5.
different code then, is the line that connects to the airback sensors... has an orange and blue plug that go right into a black connector... mine got melted by the turbo
Old 08-06-07, 02:21 AM
  #24  
Junior Member

 
teri064's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: greece/athens
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
mine also flashes 6 times! what does this code mean?
Old 08-11-07, 06:21 PM
  #25  
Rotary Freak

iTrader: (9)
 
turboIIrotary's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: dayton,ohio
Posts: 2,618
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
what does it mean when it flashes nine times? also i want to get rid of my airbag how can i?


Quick Reply: Airbag light Flashes 10 times, then pauses and repeats... problem?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:17 PM.