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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 09:09 PM
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Air Temps with stock i/c

i was just curious what others air temps are with a stock i/c normal driving and wot, in florida i get in the mid to high 40s normal driving on a warm day sometimes 50s when wot..... and tonight it got pretty cold out so i took it for a ride and noticed cruising at 75-80 it went slowly to the high 30s..after my first pull it went to 50 . i figured it would of drop pretty quicky after it hit 50 but it took its time go back down and went to 45 and wouldnt go drop anymore..
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 01:41 AM
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your lucky..

I see 75* C on my stock cooler..

slow moving traffic heats that SOB like hell..
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 03:19 AM
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do remember that the IAT sensor is located under the UIM. it would read the heat generated from the block with cold air cooling it down, not ambient temp. i often read 50-60˚C on a fairly hot day and reaching upto 70˚C at idle.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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When i'm on the highway starting with a cold engine i'll get about 20-30c above ambient. If the car sits it'll soak up to about 60-70c (absolute) but will never go down below 40-50c.

I have a boost switched intercooler sprayer so my wot pulls don't heat up as much, and it cools down much faster.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NissanConvert
When i'm on the highway starting with a cold engine i'll get about 20-30c above ambient.
This is roughly the rule of thumb that I recall when still on the stock IC. It was read from a PFC and with the IAT relocated to the intake end of the stock elbow.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 04:47 PM
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the stock intercooler doesnt do much to remove heat from the intake charge, maybe better then nothing but just barely. its also like a big heat sink. so i wouldnt be surprised to see very high intake temperatures. Also, cruising temperatures dont really matter. the intake charge wont be compressed until you're under boost, and therefor wont be as hot. If you're cruising on the highway you will probably see something like 20c over ambient. in stop and go it will be higher due to heat soak. And finally the stock AT sensor reacts slowly so even under full throttle/boost you wont see the true temperature of the intake charge until you're on it for a little while. Same goes for after the car has been sitting in traffic.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 05:36 PM
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FD3S2005...
It's not just IATs you should examine. Pressure drop is another consideration. While I suspect it's pretty high on the stock IC (maybe 2 psi?), I don't remember ever seeing any numbers.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
FD3S2005...
It's not just IATs you should examine. Pressure drop is another consideration. While I suspect it's pretty high on the stock IC (maybe 2 psi?), I don't remember ever seeing any numbers.
From autospeed:

Mazda RX-6 Series 6 13B Twin-Turbo Air-to-Air Intercooler
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Flow - Direction A and B 310 cfm (2nd overall)

Mass - 2.0kg (equal 17th overall)

Core Measurements - 29.5 x 11.4 x 6.5cm = 2186cm3 (19th overall)

With the twin-turbocharged Series 6 RX7 pushing out a creditable 190kW, it has an obvious need for good intercooler flow. As such, the Series 6 RX-7 intercooler uses large diameter pipes and a relatively small core to achieve a brilliant flow figure - only the giant aftermarket intercooler beats it on the flow bench. If you want a cheap core with abundant airflow this is it! On the other hand, the Series 6 RX7 core volume and thermal mass rate in the lower half of the field. Plastic end tanks are fitted.

If you install a Series 6 RX7 intercooler to your car, make sure you add ducting, a water spray and maybe a cooling fan - you'll have a top performer for applications in excess of 250kW.
IIRC one of the main changes they made to the later FD's was ducting to the intercooler and separating it from the intake charge. The stock ducting serves as an intake pre-heater as well as a poorly ducted charge cooler.
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sgtblue
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It's not just IATs you should examine. Pressure drop is another consideration. While I suspect it's pretty high on the stock IC (maybe 2 psi?), I don't remember ever seeing any numbers.
talking about boost pressure?

if so i dont see any drop except with the transition
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by FD3S2005
talking about boost pressure?

if so i dont see any drop except with the transition
No. I was referring to the difference in pressure between the inlet and the outlet of the stock intercooler...or any IC for that matter. The less restrictive the better.
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