ACV, LIM to Split air pipe to cat confusion…
#1
ACV, LIM to Split air pipe to cat confusion…
Trying to figure out if I have the wrong pipe here or if I’m missing something…
I removed the original pipe because it had cracked. I vaguely recall comparing to the pipe in the pic thinking they were the same and tossed the old pipe.
Ordered a new gasket and was attempting to install but the piping is oriented in the wrong direction as you can kinda see in the photo. It should be oriented towards the tranny and center tunnel.
Thoughts? Anyone have the correct pipe?
Thanks
I removed the original pipe because it had cracked. I vaguely recall comparing to the pipe in the pic thinking they were the same and tossed the old pipe.
Ordered a new gasket and was attempting to install but the piping is oriented in the wrong direction as you can kinda see in the photo. It should be oriented towards the tranny and center tunnel.
Thoughts? Anyone have the correct pipe?
Thanks
#2
Original Owner
iTrader: (1)
It looks like you have the wrong lower intake manifold. The air pipe studs are not in the correct position for a 1993 North America FD. They should be oriented as shown below. [Alternative explanation: Mazda changed the LIM design at some point and the air pipe you have was made for the other design where the flange is about 90 degrees off.]
.
.
Last edited by Retserof; 01-15-22 at 11:58 PM.
#4
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,835
Received 2,603 Likes
on
1,847 Posts
lmao, 1993, and 94/95 are different part numbers!
N3A1-20-870A vs N3B7-20-870B....
is that the intake manifold you're going to use? i've run into the same problem ( i thought the pipe was just bent), i'll go look at mine, if we're lucky we can trade
N3A1-20-870A vs N3B7-20-870B....
is that the intake manifold you're going to use? i've run into the same problem ( i thought the pipe was just bent), i'll go look at mine, if we're lucky we can trade
The following 2 users liked this post by j9fd3s:
gracer7-rx7 (01-16-22),
Retserof (01-16-22)
#7
RX-7 Bad Ass
iTrader: (55)
Also the JDM lower intake manifolds are different in this respect. The pic looks like JDM since there's no EGR valve.
I found that out myself ages ago, for some reason the split air pipe is clocked differently.
You can either try and get the right pipe or just cut the pipe and put a hose and hose clamps on it and then you can position it however.
Dale
I found that out myself ages ago, for some reason the split air pipe is clocked differently.
You can either try and get the right pipe or just cut the pipe and put a hose and hose clamps on it and then you can position it however.
Dale
Trending Topics
#8
Also the JDM lower intake manifolds are different in this respect. The pic looks like JDM since there's no EGR valve.
I found that out myself ages ago, for some reason the split air pipe is clocked differently.
You can either try and get the right pipe or just cut the pipe and put a hose and hose clamps on it and then you can position it however.
Dale
I found that out myself ages ago, for some reason the split air pipe is clocked differently.
You can either try and get the right pipe or just cut the pipe and put a hose and hose clamps on it and then you can position it however.
Dale
reteserof’s pic is the jdm manifold?
#9
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,835
Received 2,603 Likes
on
1,847 Posts
i see an EGR on both, or the sport where the EGR goes
#10
RX-7 Bad Ass
iTrader: (55)
Helps when I'm looking at it not on an iPad
Yes, both pics are US EGR LIM's. My bad on that!
Could also be the split air pipe is a JDM part and not a US part.
Regardless the cut and use a hose or re-weld still stands for how to resolve.
Dale
Yes, both pics are US EGR LIM's. My bad on that!
Could also be the split air pipe is a JDM part and not a US part.
Regardless the cut and use a hose or re-weld still stands for how to resolve.
Dale
The following users liked this post:
gracer7-rx7 (01-19-22)
#11
Full Member
iTrader: (1)
I'm bringing this thread back to ask a related question. I have a newer jdm lower intake manifold that I wanted to use on my 93. I have the same air pipe issue but I also noticed the acv has no electrical connections on it. My 93 acv has 3 places where my harness plugs into. All the information I have found online shows the electrically controlled acv. Can I use the newer acv? I will be using a PFC if that makes a difference. I was planning on keeping the air pump for the cat.
#12
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,835
Received 2,603 Likes
on
1,847 Posts
yes, you can use it. the US cars have those extra bits, and the JDM cars don't. they don't do much, and the PFC wasn't using it anyways
#13
I found a thread on here a few months back on this but can't find it again atm but my memory of what I found was that the JDM ACV is different and the 2 extra plugs are a USDM thing.
If it were me, I'd swap the US ACV over for no other reason than reducing the need to have to take everything apart to do it again afterwards if there was an issue. Assuming the US part fits...
If it were me, I'd swap the US ACV over for no other reason than reducing the need to have to take everything apart to do it again afterwards if there was an issue. Assuming the US part fits...
#14
An update to my split air pipe saga
j9fd3s eventually met up and exchanging pipes. Thanks j!
I test fit and it fit much better until the last 3-4 inches where it curved slightly to the passenger side and into the heat shielding...
At this point, I gave up on finding a proper fitting one and cut the last 3-4 inches off and got some high temp silicon hose to fill the gap. I used the same hose that RX7.com uses on their high flow cat to attach to the split air pipe further downstream near the cat. The hose is Purosil. Manufacturer is here: https://purosil.com/product.php?cate...er_vacuum&id=0
I think I found mine from a company that sells marine products that was also on ebay.
Hope this helps someone down the line. Bending the pipe was not an option. That walls on that pipe are surprisingly thick.
j9fd3s eventually met up and exchanging pipes. Thanks j!
I test fit and it fit much better until the last 3-4 inches where it curved slightly to the passenger side and into the heat shielding...
At this point, I gave up on finding a proper fitting one and cut the last 3-4 inches off and got some high temp silicon hose to fill the gap. I used the same hose that RX7.com uses on their high flow cat to attach to the split air pipe further downstream near the cat. The hose is Purosil. Manufacturer is here: https://purosil.com/product.php?cate...er_vacuum&id=0
I think I found mine from a company that sells marine products that was also on ebay.
Hope this helps someone down the line. Bending the pipe was not an option. That walls on that pipe are surprisingly thick.
#15
Full Member
iTrader: (1)
I found a thread on here a few months back on this but can't find it again atm but my memory of what I found was that the JDM ACV is different and the 2 extra plugs are a USDM thing.
If it were me, I'd swap the US ACV over for no other reason than reducing the need to have to take everything apart to do it again afterwards if there was an issue. Assuming the US part fits...
If it were me, I'd swap the US ACV over for no other reason than reducing the need to have to take everything apart to do it again afterwards if there was an issue. Assuming the US part fits...
#16
RX-7 Bad Ass
iTrader: (55)
Remember, the PFC doesn't care if you have stuff plugged in or not. No CE light, no limp mode, etc. As long as it has enough inputs/outputs to make the car go you are good.
Dale
Dale
#17
Moderator
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: https://www2.mazda.com/en/100th/
Posts: 30,835
Received 2,603 Likes
on
1,847 Posts
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post