Toyotarx7

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what would happen if i took my ABS system out? would i loose stopping power or experiance any other negative factor to the car? is it a good idean or bad idea or has anyone even done it please let me know ive never taken one out and since i have the motor out of the car and dropping in a 2jz, i feel now would be the time to do so,


let me know thank you

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

I would leave it in. The only downside to keeping it is a few pounds.

Dave

zanthrax

Unless you need the space for your swap I'd leave it in.
I see no real good argument for removing the ABS, it's a safety feature.

staticguitar313

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Its worth keeping in, saved me a few times from people slamming on brakes in front of me to avoid various obstacles.

Indian

iTrader: (1)

Does anyone have a ABS delete write up on here? I searched a few threads, but the info was very vague, and they all ended up speaking about why you shouldn't get rid of the blasted thing.

fd0

iTrader: (8)

If you remove your ABS system you won't be able to run the Racelogic Traction Control System. Look up the Racelogic system and you'll see what it can do for your car.

calculon

iTrader: (29)

^ That's not true. All you need for the Racelogic system are the wheel speed sensors. The ABS computer and controller can go out the window.

fd0

iTrader: (8)

Really? My bad. Calculon, do you have it up and running? Just curious. As soon as I'm finished with my single turbo project, I plan on installing my Racelogic Traction Control System.

wrankin

Does your ABS system work? Then why on earth would you consider removing it? It can save your butt in emergency stopping situations and also in bad weather. Removing it will not improve your braking ability at all and when you find yourself in a situation where you need ABS, you will be really grateful that you have it.

You have a fairly light, powerful car with wide tires - you need the ABS.

ncc1701d

This traction control thing sounds interesting, but it is safe on a wankel engine?

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

Good question. It cuts fuel and spark for very brief periods of time to reduce power and keep wheelspin under control. They claim that if the AFR is above 20:1, it won't want to ignite. Then they state "Even if a high air/fuel ratio did manage to ignite, the energy available from the amount of petrol injected wouldn't be enough to elevate temperatures significantly.". That's not very comforting to me, since it's not temperature I'm worried about, it's detonation.

I'm sure someone who knows more about combustion dynamics can provide a more detailed picture, but based on what I've seen I'd take a cautious approach until proven otherwise.

Dave

badddrx7

iTrader: (7)

Get shed of it.....and all it components. More room, less weight, Cooler compartment and more go !



Later

MOBEONER

iTrader: (18)

mee too....My abs has done me well specially here in NYC. Plus with the power your gonna make with that monster engine i would just keep the abs

zanthrax

Do a search for racelogic, the few people that bought it all loved it.
I've experienced it on a high-powered S14 and a stock S2000 and it's very impressive.

Sure it's safe for a wankel, it can interupt spark and/or injection, for a turbo car I'd just have it cut the injectors. The manufacturer claims it will work on any car with EFI and ABS.

http://www.racelogic.co.uk/?show=Traction_Control

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

My comments relate to a turbocharged rotary.

For N/A rotary I agree there is no doubt it's safe.

David

phunny

I bought my car w/out abs and really I haven't noticed it at all. I guess it's because the tires are wide and these things don't way that much. Just my .02$

Sgtblue

iTrader: (16)

Remove it. Even better, yank out that PS and AC system too. After all, you have may have to add some PS fluid some day, and the AC system might require some maintanence.

Even if you don't lock 'em up and crash yours, it'll make the remaining streeted cars with even a fraction of car's original streetablity more valuable. And in the currrent economy, the rest of us can use the help.

phunny

I laughed after I read that. I have no A/C or power steering either.
But this is just a weekend car so it's not that important to me

MOBEONER

iTrader: (18)

i have no AC or PS. i got use to the no PS in fact it doesn't even bother me at all.The no AC is a little rough but what ever, its off the car now and it aint going back in....

Indian

iTrader: (1)

Ok great.. Glad all of your guys who love the abs system have vented the "keep the abs" rant. Now does anyone know how to do it properly?

Sgtblue

iTrader: (16)

Lol...first of all, whose ranting? Second, the OP asked for opinions. I understand that no one has addressed your question yet, but then it wasn't your thread. Besides, I just did some reading on it after a brief search uncovered several threads and some pictures.

spanks13

iTrader: (5)

I will be taking it out of my car. It will be a weekend toy that will see maybe 3k miles a year. I will want to Auto x and track day it. If it goes on the track I would not want to have the abs in the car.

I think it you can't keep from locking the brakes up you don't belong in a 450 hp 2800 pound car, but that's just me. Watch, two years from now I'll be posting a Q_Q I locked my brakes and landed in a tree .

dguy

iTrader: (8)

I've honestly never had to rely on the ABS so I'd vote get rid of it. If however you DO use it and haven't got the feel to threshold brake then I'd say stick with it.

Indian

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Maybe you should have read, that he wants to remove it..
Granted, it's not my thread, but I also have use for the information too. Thats what forums are for...

Being sarcastic doesn't help this thread, nor helps defining you as any help to anyone

I've stated that I would like to find info about the same mechanical part the the thread starter is asking opinions on. Also , showing how it's done properly might save his and my life and yet being a ***** looks like it's your number one priority when it comes to the abs delete and to me.

If you love the ABS system so much, Once I delete mine , I can send it to you for a souvenir.

dgeesaman

iTrader: (7)

For a track car, I agree with that. But for a street car it doesn't matter what you weigh or how well you drive. Bits of gravel, oil puddles, whatever it is, no emergency stopping maneuver is in ideal conditions. Most emergencies are far from ideal. Removing ABS is jacking up the risk factors significantly.

Funny though the better a driver I become (I do race autocrosses regularly) the more I appreciate the value of the safety features on my car.

David