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Old Sep 1, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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ABS Delete question

Yes, ive searched, and found some thread and such but nothing that immediately pertains to what im looking for.

My question is this, in deleting my ABS unit, should i swap to a 929 BMC? or will the stock unit be sufficient?
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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just curious....why you wanna take abs out??
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:23 AM
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cause its a piece of crap..

Mine has never worked and I just took it out.

Originally Posted by BendThaBlockDrift
just curious....why you wanna take abs out??
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:37 AM
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I took out my ABS, didn't change anything. Works wonders at the track but if your gonna track it, its a good idea to get a slightly better pad in the front.

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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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The 929 MC is to compensate for a front BBK. That has nothing to do with ABS removal.

BTW, removing the ABS is not holding you back on the track - I can reach full threshold braking consistently without engaging it. I'll happily keep mine if it keeps me from flatspotting a set of tires and also keeps me off the guardrail on the way home.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
The 929 MC is to compensate for a front BBK. That has nothing to do with ABS removal.

BTW, removing the ABS is not holding you back on the track - I can reach full threshold braking consistently without engaging it. I'll happily keep mine if it keeps me from flatspotting a set of tires and also keeps me off the guardrail on the way home.
If your using R compounds, I would have to disagree with this. Not having ABS teaches you how to brake properly instead of just pushing the brake pedal. Although, I admit I burned a set of Hoosier R6's in about 3 days the first time I removed it, It was one of the better moves I ever made. I'm braking later and smoother now with the ABS removed and the whole brake + turn in just feels better.

One thing I did notice the first time I removed the ABS was that my rear would lock up very easily on downshift. After some experimenting with the way I braked, I realized there was just too much rear brake bias with sticky tires under full braking. Switching to a better pad in the front (HP plus --> DTC-70) solved this issue AND provided me with even better braking ability.

Note: I have Stoptech BBK and Stoptech rear rotors if that makes a difference to anything.


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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 07:23 AM
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So the best way to remove the ABS would be to add the posibility to switch it off.
The easiest way to do that is to put a switch in the + wire of the ABS CPU.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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I've only run R-compounds in autocrossing (not such high speeds), but I get better braking by staying on the threshold and out of ABS engagement. When the pedal shudders I know I've gone too far.

Maybe for a more refined driver it's not that simple, but for me that's been it.

I'm pretty sure you can disable the ABS by pulling the fuse or the relay. Search out the details and give it a try. Then if you find yourself always pulling the fuse or never putting it back in, I'd remove the system to save the weight.

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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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mine simply failed since day one and has never worked...I destroyed a set of tires in a week learning to brake properly with no abs. I learned on radials and then went onto Rcomps...No Abs is great for dry but I am still having a hard time getting it right in the damp/wet conditions.
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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i plan on tracking my car but its also going to be a daily driven street car, the ABS unit is already out of the car, for a prior project i was doing.

I planned on replacing the front brake pads and rotors with something more substantial already.

Should i think about a proportioning valve for the rear brakes as well or is that also something only used with a BBK?
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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitokiri_Gensai
i plan on tracking my car but its also going to be a daily driven street car, the ABS unit is already out of the car, for a prior project i was doing.

I planned on replacing the front brake pads and rotors with something more substantial already.

Should i think about a proportioning valve for the rear brakes as well or is that also something only used with a BBK?
I don't think you need a proportioning valve. If you just get a better pad in the front it will work fine. Although, someone else might have some different insight.

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Old Sep 2, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hitokiri_Gensai
Should i think about a proportioning valve for the rear brakes as well or is that also something only used with a BBK?
Check this thread:

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/removing-abs-718805/
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