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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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Question 94-95 FD or 2003 Yamaha R6

So here's my dilemma. I'm getting a job finally. And I'll be able to get one or the other. I know the board is FD biased. But some of you have to ride sports bikes too. The bike out performs the FD in everyway, even price. What do you all think?
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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If you think you can survive a bike crash, go right ahead! There is no doubt that the bike will out perform a FD but there is always that negative side of the bike riding you when you crash instead of the other way around hehe


good luck

BTW: I vote for a R1 yahama hehe
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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What are you gonna drive/ride in Winter if you get the bike???
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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He's gonna put mud tires on it...

Oh..and umm...I'm the same way..I could have gotten a REALLY fast bike...but I chose to play it safe.

You can just die SO easily on a bike..even slow accidents.

You do something stupid in an FD, you still got a chance to live.

Plus..you're not freezing your butt off in the rain and cold.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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Ok. I'm an experienced, trained, and insured rider. That means that I'm 90% less likely to get in an accident when riding than most other riders. Not to say it won't happen but I'm at about the same risk as driving a car.

As for surviving the crash - I always wear my helmet and body armor. Which, by the way, is literally bullet proof and made of carbon fiber and kevlar. So my chances of surviving a crash are pretty good. Not to mention that survival on a bike is 80% rider intelligence and 20% bike agility.

Winter? That's easy. I still have my 1994 Mazda B4000 pickup 4x4 pickup truck.

PS I'm going R6 and not R1 because I like the looks and handling of the R6 over the bigger R1


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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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I've survived 2

Unfortunately both I was wearing a t-shirt.

Winter time just bundle up. As long as you're dressed right, you can ride in 30 somethin degrees no prob. Hasn't gotten colder than that here in Dallas since I've been riding.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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This is not a good comparison! Maybe if you did a Mazda '93 R1 to a Yamaha '03 R1 then that would be at least close in price at about $13k. A '94-'95 RX-7 would cost double a '03 R6 costs.

You would also need a car. A bike can not be the only transportation. You can't get groceries. Some girls will not get on it. There's no winshield wiper on your face shield.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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get both, that's what I did

it depends, I use my FD alot more, and it's nice to be out of the weather to go out on a date and stuff....then again, most chicks won't touch a bike anyway

on a mountain road, nothing compares to the feeling of riding a bike, but that is about 1% of my time, realistically
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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This is kinda funny, because I sold my FD a while back for a variety of reasons, but one of them was that I wanted to get into bikes like crazy. I bought a new F4i in the summer. Bikes are great, love it, tons of thrills, etc. But as the others have said, you really get out and ride it like it was meant to be ridden a small percentage of the time. The car you can take out a lot more. It's just the way it works. Tough call, I'm glad I got into bikes, but I need another fast car as well. I think it depends on the other factors in your life. I live on a college campus, and keeping the RX7 unmolested was a job and a half, and it was my only car. That combination just didn't work for me. Good luck with your decision!
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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They're like apples and oranges. Just contemplate whether you want a sports bike or a sports car. Personally, I would prefer the car, because it is less extreme as far as impracticality is concerned.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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I think I'm pretty qualified to speak on this subject!!!

I've been riding for about five years.....

My first bike was a gsxr 750 and I lost the front end on a cold night while braking hard......that sucked...along with the fact that the bike was totalled when it hit the curb. Then two years later, I low-sided my CBR929 and almost lost my left leg. I decided that no more bikes for me. BTW...I'm not some squid rider. I ride in full leathers and body armor.

While laying in bed with a cast at my mom's house (since I couldn't take care of myself), I thought I would go the safer/still fast route.....that's when I bought my FD.....I love it to fukking death. I had just gotten out of my cast and could barely bend my left knee when I test drove it.

But........I couldn't take it not having a bike. No matter how nice the FD performed there's nothing like the thrill of hanging off the bike on a track day with your knee on the ground doing 110mph. I've done autocrosses in the FD and it just doesn't compare. So I bought another bike and I have both now! You haven't felt like the MAN yet until you finish a bike ride on your ducati and then take out the FD for a spin down the same roads......THAT'S BLISS!!!

In summation, the bike is more thrilling, exciting but much more dangerous. The question is, what's more practical for you!
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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Okay here's the deal. I've had an R6 before and here are the disadvantages of owning one:

-Riding in the rain sucks and it's really dangerous with -the factory dry tires.
-Riding in the snow - that's out of the question
-Riding w/ a girl - can't talk and touch and your responsibility goes up 1000%
-If it's not sunny then it's freaking cold for sure.
-The low stance of the R6's windshield is so low that riding on the freeway with your chin up is a bitch...
-The short distance between the seat and the peg makes riding the R6 similar to riding a race horse. The extreme bending of the knee for long periods of time is surely unenjoyable and will give you cramps (you're okay if you're under 5'8").
-No music unless you bring a walkman, but then you wouldn't be able to switch songs, change stations, smoke, drink, eat .... etc.
-Dangerous no matter how skillful you are.

I've sold my bike after 2 of my friends passed away. Peace.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Buy The car

I have a Modded 3rd gen RX-7 and a Honda CBR 600 F2.

Buy the car.... The car is way more practical and just as fun as a bike. My car was in the shop for three weeks recently. I only had my bike to get around, which was better than nothing. But, I sure missed my car.

You can always buys used crotch rocket later, for under $3000.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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the bike is more reliable, I will say that

my R1 never skips a beat and I haven't lifted a finger on it except tires and chain adjustments.....the motors are bullet proof if you keep the oil changed and run synthetic
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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buy the car. the bike is nice, ( had one, my brother still does) you can have a lot more fun modifing the fd then the bike. plus for the fist 500 miles you cant really dog the bike anyway. if you buy the car its allready been run-in. besides if you really want a bike that handles like the r6 but has the power of the r1 then wait for the r7. i beleave it will be out soon. it is the best of both worlds.
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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get the car, even though you are an expierienced rider u can still die easy. Other people can make stupid mistakes and hit u and you will die. Wow that sounded really depressing didn't it?
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Old Jan 10, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by jquid
buy the car. the bike is nice, ( had one, my brother still does) you can have a lot more fun modifing the fd then the bike. plus for the fist 500 miles you cant really dog the bike anyway. if you buy the car its allready been run-in. besides if you really want a bike that handles like the r6 but has the power of the r1 then wait for the r7. i beleave it will be out soon. it is the best of both worlds.
Sorry homie, but Yamaha already released the R7 back in '99, and they've stopped production after the first year. It was basically a "homologation" model, very limited production, to create a platform for a superbike racer. Kinda useless to buy unless you bought all the engine kit parts, which were hugely expensive; stock, the bike wasn't all that impressive. And the 500-mile break-in period gets over with awful fast.

How do I know? Because the bike manufacturers give me bikes to ride and test all year long! MUWHAHAHAHAHA One of the perks of being a motorcycle mag editor...

Actually, even though I'm a motorcyclist at heart, you should probably buy the FD for now if it's a good one, unless you live in the Southwest where you can ride all year long. Sportbikes will always be around; good, clean, well-kept FDs aren't.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 12:33 AM
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I have owned sportbikes all my life. I always will. But if you have to ask which one to get then you obviously aren't ready for the comittment that the FD will take. Go ahead and get the R6 and wait on the FD until you are ready for something that is going to require alot of TLC and attention. Not to mention that the R6 is a great bike. But Kento has a good point. FD's in good condition are getting more rare by the day. Just a few things to take into consideration. Just my .02 Laterz.

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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 01:02 AM
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Get the R6. Bikes are way more fun than cars.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 01:18 AM
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I have no problem restoring an FD once the price drops a bit more. I think I'll go with the bike first. If, by the time I have the cash, good FD's are not availible then I guess I'll just have to go with the 2004 STI or one of the several other sports cars and sedans hitting the market in the coming years.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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Kento....you wouldn't happen to be Kent Kunitsugu from SportBike magazine would you????

A few questions if you are.
a)which is the better handler, R7 or MV F4

b)any speculations on when and by whom MV's going to be purchased by?

c)Have you had a chance to ride the new 600RR? Is it really all that the Honda racers say it is (despite the fact they all crashed them at the Daytona tests)

d)when is the 600 sportbike comparo slated to be published?

e)is it in fact true that MotoGP is coming to the U.S. in 04, specifically to Homestead? Done deal?

f)need any photographic help covering the above?

g)are you an RX-7 owner or thinking about purchasing one? Just curious...

h)if you could pick any modern sportbike to modify and use as a track day/streetbike combo, what would it be? Please don't say GSXR1000 though.... :-)

And if you're not Kent Kunitsugu, welcome anyway.

Back to the original topic, get the FD. The bike will be less expensive to own and maintain (assuming a three to four month riding year in Colorado) and when you can afford a bike, go for it. If it's your first bike, I'd suggest something a little more tame to start with though....Go with a single turbo on the FD and you'll be able to outrun the R6 on the straights.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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If it is Kent, welcome to the board!

The quote in the Bike of the year contest from Kent regarding the R1 is why I bought one. It went something like "That bike freaking rocks..."!

And, here is the number one reason to buy a bike over a car!



It is an awesome feeling!
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Cool

I like Doors... What can I say =)
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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I had to share this.
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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LMFAO to the above!!!

You can't compare a bike to a motorcycle as others have stated. It depends what you want to do in your life and how 'risky' you are. You can't ask members here what they think since it isn't a simple comparison say such as RX7 vs. RX8. or something. Good luck in whatever you decide. Also, a bike is 1/2 price of an RX7
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