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Old 09-23-09, 05:14 PM
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Question Is 750.00 expensive or reasonable?

I don't know jack about suspension, so I'm letting the professionals do it. Here's what I'm having done: I'm supplying all the parts minus the bumpstops.

-Every bushing on the car is being replaced
-All shocks are being replaced
-New bumpstops being fabricated and installed
-Mystery exhaust leak fixed
-Heat shielding applied to the exhaust because it gets hot as hell (already melted the back of a sensor)

Thanks
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every bushing? that alone is $750 right there. to me, you are getting a good deal!
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Sounds like a good deal, if you have the tools that job isn't that hard to do. On that note, I was quote $700 for a shop to only install a set of coilovers.
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Originally Posted by bio243
I don't know jack about suspension, so I'm letting the professionals do it. Here's what I'm having done: I'm supplying all the parts minus the bumpstops.

-Every bushing on the car is being replaced
-All shocks are being replaced
-New bumpstops being fabricated and installed
-Mystery exhaust leak fixed
-Heat shielding applied to the exhaust because it gets hot as hell (already melted the back of a sensor)

Thanks
Sounds reasonable to me.

That of course depends on the quality of work performed for the $$.

If you have to pay someone else to do it right, it won't be such a good deal.

You may want to get some references...
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Originally Posted by Davin
every bushing? that alone is $750 right there. to me, you are getting a good deal!

Yeah but didn't he say that HE'S supplying the parts? So I think the 750 is for just labor, and the bumpstops.
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$750 is a tad high, but not crazy. $675-700 is about what it should be considering the state of the market.
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Pressing the bushings and pillow ***** can be a bit of a nighmare, esp the toe links.

Which ones specifically are being done? The car has something like 28 or 30 total.
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why would you need to fabricate bumpstops? i bought some for something like $10 each when I had my Konis custom valved at Tripoint.

That is a great price - depending on quality as jk mentioned.
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I changed every bushing on my car myself and would gladly pay someone $750 to do it for me.

Pillowballs are easy - the rubber bushings are the real pain, and there are lots of them, each with a different removal technique. I suspect the shop may not know what it is getting into.
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why would you need to fabricate bumpstops? i bought some for something like $10 each when I had my Konis custom valved at Tripoint.

I didn't know what kind I was looking for and so far, all I've found are universal ones and didn't know if they would fit.

Yeah but didn't he say that HE'S supplying the parts? So I think the 750 is for just labor, and the bumpstops

I'm supplying a full set of powerflex bushings and tokico shocks

Thanks for the input guys. Any other tips, let me know.
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Universals will fit but I believe the bump stops are incorporated into the OEM upper shock mounts anyway. I'm assuming you got a new set of those and spring pads too, right?
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That is dirt cheap for a scumbag of a job that takes an entire day. Pressing bushings is never fun. If that shop hasn't done a full set of fd bushings before, they will be banging their head against the wall. Most shops will charge over $1000 plus parts. If they stick to the original quote and do the job right, you found yourself a great deal.
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Originally Posted by Rotary Experiment Seven
That is dirt cheap for a scumbag of a job that takes an entire day. Pressing bushings is never fun. If that shop hasn't done a full set of fd bushings before, they will be banging their head against the wall. Most shops will charge over $1000 plus parts. If they stick to the original quote and do the job right, you found yourself a great deal.
I imagine I'll have to get a written estimate before handing over the keys and an odometer reading.
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this is a steal! replacing the fd bushings is a nightmare. i just got done replacing pretty much every bushing and it was a PAIN IN THE ***!
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What about the pillowball bushings in the rear? Those cost nearly $400...
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OH This shop that gave you the quote?

Sometimes this is a given, but since you bought your own parts and now want someone to provide the install makes me think this old saying is worth mentioning.
When it comes to 3rd Gen RX7s and repair shops, if you dont see 2 or 3 cars like yours on the premises, dont leave it there. This job could be a great opportunity for you to learn alot about your car. For $750.00 you could buy alot of stuff man. Tools, OEM manuals, other parts you may need of want? I feel the 3rd Gen RX7 is the kind of car that finally finds a home with a person who want to learn about the car, loves the car for its original qualities, and will ultimately decide to keep the car forever. Now, while your thinking about that...think about this.

Fab OEM bump stops????? Get under there and look at those. Look in the OEM
service manual. Given: New spring pads w/OEM upper mounts. Did you mean fab bump stops??? Cant go wrong with all OEM Mazda parts (R1 everything except for springs) should be more than good enough for street rally/racing. But
I have this echo in the back of my head.......something like......Tripoint custom valved Konis......Ground Contol Coilovers??????? Thats one spicey meatball!!!!!
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Originally Posted by KD-93R1
Sometimes this is a given, but since you bought your own parts and now want someone to provide the install makes me think this old saying is worth mentioning.
When it comes to 3rd Gen RX7s and repair shops, if you dont see 2 or 3 cars like yours on the premises, dont leave it there. This job could be a great opportunity for you to learn alot about your car. For $750.00 you could buy alot of stuff man. Tools, OEM manuals, other parts you may need of want? I feel the 3rd Gen RX7 is the kind of car that finally finds a home with a person who want to learn about the car, loves the car for its original qualities, and will ultimately decide to keep the car forever. Now, while your thinking about that...think about this.


Normally, I try to do my own work. However, I have no clue about suspension and don't want to jack it up. Although I would learn a lot, I have absolutely NO TIME on my hands to take care of it. The Army takes all of that. If someone can send me a link or info to bumpstops instead of them being made, I'll just buy them. I didn't know a part number or info and all I found were universal ones and didn't know if they would fit. Now that I know there are some out there, I'll just get those too.

Thanks guys

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My 2 cents is that is an excellent deal, as long as they actually deliver. I would double check that all that gets done, especially the bushings. But if its legit, then congrats on scoring a deal.
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Originally Posted by bio243
Normally, I try to do my own work. However, I have no clue about suspension and don't want to jack it up. Although I would learn a lot, I have absolutely NO TIME on my hands to take care of it. The Army takes all of that. If someone can send me a link or info to bumpstops instead of them being made, I'll just buy them. I didn't know a part number or info and all I found were universal ones and didn't know if they would fit. Now that I know there are some out there, I'll just get those too.

Thanks guys


Let me rephrase my answer - You don't need aftermarket bump stops if you are using the stock upper shock mounts. They are integrated into the upper shock mounts (sometimes called pillowballs). I ran those stock parts when I had H&R springs over my Konis. Ray at Malloy Mazda (hmkparts@aol.com) can confirm that. I'm assuming you ordered your stock parts from him...


I have no idea what KD-93R1 was saying....
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sounds like a good price to me. it is a pretty labor-intensive job.
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
Let me rephrase my answer - You don't need aftermarket bump stops if you are using the stock upper shock mounts. They are integrated into the upper shock mounts (sometimes called pillowballs). I ran those stock parts when I had H&R springs over my Konis. Ray at Malloy Mazda (hmkparts@aol.com) can confirm that. I'm assuming you ordered your stock parts from him...


I have no idea what KD-93R1 was saying....
The idiot who had this car before me tried to modify them when he lowered the car. Only he took them out, looks like he cut them up with a knife or something, and put them back in. They are past destroyed. He should punch himself in the face.

So now they don't limit the travel of suspension at all, the inside of the fender does. He also modified the fender liners, wheel wells, whatever you want to call them. Upon further inspection, both of them are being held in place by a bunch of staples from an office stapler. It's awesome.
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just the 6 pillowball bushings in the rear are $450 for just he parts that isn't including dissasebly and pressing them in its a good deal.
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