500r daily driver
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500r daily driver
is it possible to daily drive with 500r turbo, when i say possible i mean am i going to have problems all the time, what makes the high horspower 7's so unreliable, or is it just how you take care of it.
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Some people daily drive high horsepower cars, but I REALLY don't enjoy that. Making serious horsepower, you're looking at a crazy loud car, with a stiff clutch, little low-end power, and enough power to have you going WAY too fast in a jiffy.
It sounds like fun, but it just gets to be work, IMHO. This is true for nearly any very high-horsepower car.
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It sounds like fun, but it just gets to be work, IMHO. This is true for nearly any very high-horsepower car.
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Big single turbo = not fun daily driver. As Dale pointed out, the modifications necessary to support the big power make the car much less fun to deal with on a daily basis.
There's no reason it can't be reasonably reliable, especially given the fact that for most daily driving, you'll have less torque/power than a 4-banger Accord.
There's no reason it can't be reasonably reliable, especially given the fact that for most daily driving, you'll have less torque/power than a 4-banger Accord.
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I don't enjoy driving my car daily. The suspension,big turbo, exhaust, and gas prices kill it. It's better to drive it when I'm going out with friends or for a cruise 2 or 3 times a week.
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I Daily drive mine...doesn't really bother me.....i used to daily drive something way more PITA than a rx7.....a 2001 Dakota on 20/22"s bagged and body drop cruisin with no shocks with the doors about 1" off the ground....now my truck is just a land mark taking up space in my garage.
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You can keep the boost down 12lbs or even 10 but 12 is a good comprimise and 10 would be a sacrafice. Soft suspension, quiet exhaust, noise suppresion, bangin stereo, good A/C and easy pedal effort clutch will make it comfortable enough for a daily driver assuming you are close enough to work that you don't cry at the pump every time it's empty.
My CRX is more of a PIA. The suspension is too stiff. Understeer makes me look drunk. Rattles from everywhere, road noise, too small, too low to the ground, cops allways pull me over in it. I have never once been pulled over in my lifted F150.
My CRX is more of a PIA. The suspension is too stiff. Understeer makes me look drunk. Rattles from everywhere, road noise, too small, too low to the ground, cops allways pull me over in it. I have never once been pulled over in my lifted F150.
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Mine will be my "daily driver" with a GT35R on it. I don't have to commute with the car though as the University's bus system comes by my townhouse. So mine will be for fun and to run a few errands, thats about it though.
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Besides the fact that it wont be very confortable, gas alone on a 400rwhp RX7 will make it not worth it. On top of that, it much more likely that something will break when everything under the hood is custom. Getting new parts may take many weeks and you'll have no car to drive during that time... just something to think about.
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I think that depends on which turbo you've gone with, how the motor is ported, how you'e done the supporting mods, etc.
I've ridden in/driven 35R and RX6B cars that are perfectly livable in terms of power delivery, and with noise levels similar to my twin turbo car (which aren't exactly quiet once you've breathed them out). Your exhaust choice will play a bigger role than whether it's single/twin. Don't get a port that's so aggressive that you have a lumpy idle either.
I think one thing that's really irritating is a fuel pump you have to listen to whirring away. My Supra pump is just as quiet as stock, and if I were to go single, i'd either do a dual supra setup, or something else internal that I don't have to listen to.
With regard to a clutch, depending on how smooth you are you may not need to do anything more than a street/strip, but i've driven an RPS sprung six-puck, and it was perfectly fine. Make sure you get the sprung hub.
Other than that, choices such as the suspension, and climate controls/ etc., are all choices you'll have to make that are irrespective of whether or not you have a single turbo... and their daily driver worthiness will depend on your tollerance level and road conditions. These cars weren't Buick roadmasters when they left the factory.
I've ridden in/driven 35R and RX6B cars that are perfectly livable in terms of power delivery, and with noise levels similar to my twin turbo car (which aren't exactly quiet once you've breathed them out). Your exhaust choice will play a bigger role than whether it's single/twin. Don't get a port that's so aggressive that you have a lumpy idle either.
I think one thing that's really irritating is a fuel pump you have to listen to whirring away. My Supra pump is just as quiet as stock, and if I were to go single, i'd either do a dual supra setup, or something else internal that I don't have to listen to.
With regard to a clutch, depending on how smooth you are you may not need to do anything more than a street/strip, but i've driven an RPS sprung six-puck, and it was perfectly fine. Make sure you get the sprung hub.
Other than that, choices such as the suspension, and climate controls/ etc., are all choices you'll have to make that are irrespective of whether or not you have a single turbo... and their daily driver worthiness will depend on your tollerance level and road conditions. These cars weren't Buick roadmasters when they left the factory.
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That's not a daily driver. And you haven't lived with it yet....
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yeah i have an old cadillac to drive when going to class and stuff, but i still will want to drive my 7 every day. I already ordered the 500r, they said somewhere around 3-4 weeks. I just want to be able to drive it without worry about stuff breaking all the time. I'm sure a lot of people feel this way. I will have all the best supporting mods, thinking about either having a spec put them in or bonzai racing in indiana. Anyway thanks for all the input. here is a couple of pics if you guys wanna c what it looks like
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the FD "Slippery Mod Slope."
(SMS)
perhaps more challenging to properly deal with than than the actual mod-tech.
how many FDs are sitting around because they have been modded to the point where they are really a pain to drive unless the adrenalin is running?
answer: lots.
hey, if 350 pound front springs are super how about 600s or 900s...
and 450 rwhp has got to be more fun than 375, but now 600 looks like the ticket.
and, sure, there are no trade-offs.
it is so easy to start sliding too fast down the slippery Marvel Mystery Oil slope.
and yet, the perfect FD is out there. there may not be a more perfect mass produced sportscar platform to modify.
of course we all visualize and build to differing visions of what we want to do w the car and where we live (say, really bumpy roads etc). so no two "perfect" FDs are the same.
but i do believe that there are really alot of over modded FDs parked due to uncomfortable clutches, way too stiff suspensions, nylon bushings everywhere rather than in the only 2 places that need to be switched out...
it might be fun to start a thread that would be the mirror image of the usual threads we see about favorite mods.... mods you wish you never made.
balance is often hard to achieve, especially perfect balance.
i clearly recall being blown away by an article in Sports Car Graphic in 1965 by Brock Yates. he had gotten his hands on a 1965 Shelby Mustang GT350 and had driven it a couple hundred miles from his home to Watkins Glen and had run a SCCA BP race and done well against real racecars w his street legal GT350. i bought a 65 GT350 the following year.
the 65 GT350 (the only real GT350), come to think of it, might be the perfect template for my FD... towards the slippery slope but not quite over it. a lifetime of playing near the edge and 22 full seasons of SCCA Nat roadracing have taught me to respect the "SMS."
there are a million things i could still do to my FD to go faster ontrack but i don't like the tradeoffs on some of them.
still...
i designed and built a twin Garrett TO4 turbosystem that delivers over 80 lbs/minute to the motor. that's GT42 territory... the difference being i only have to run 18 psi to get it. spool is alot like OEM. it was all about respecting the tradeoffs.
instead of running a big noisy fuelpump i run a nice quiet Cosmo w a Kenne Bell Boost A Pump that juices the volts but only under boost.
i run an Exedy Hyper Single clutch that is easy on the leg and long on engineering.
suspension has always been my strong suit... i run Tein HA 432 front and 378 rear springs and the car is always a joy to drive both on and off the track.
one of my more interesting mods for 06 is a methanol injection system... (no water)
my car is on the road from april thru nov being in wisconsin... last year i rolled up approx 7500 miles. i windsurf alot and often you'll see my car w my board and masts on the roof w a couple of sails and my boom inside.
i do hope each of us is successful in modding our cars to the point where we REALLY get what we want.
an FD is a terrible thing to waste.
howard coleman
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perhaps more challenging to properly deal with than than the actual mod-tech.
how many FDs are sitting around because they have been modded to the point where they are really a pain to drive unless the adrenalin is running?
answer: lots.
hey, if 350 pound front springs are super how about 600s or 900s...
and 450 rwhp has got to be more fun than 375, but now 600 looks like the ticket.
and, sure, there are no trade-offs.
it is so easy to start sliding too fast down the slippery Marvel Mystery Oil slope.
and yet, the perfect FD is out there. there may not be a more perfect mass produced sportscar platform to modify.
of course we all visualize and build to differing visions of what we want to do w the car and where we live (say, really bumpy roads etc). so no two "perfect" FDs are the same.
but i do believe that there are really alot of over modded FDs parked due to uncomfortable clutches, way too stiff suspensions, nylon bushings everywhere rather than in the only 2 places that need to be switched out...
it might be fun to start a thread that would be the mirror image of the usual threads we see about favorite mods.... mods you wish you never made.
balance is often hard to achieve, especially perfect balance.
i clearly recall being blown away by an article in Sports Car Graphic in 1965 by Brock Yates. he had gotten his hands on a 1965 Shelby Mustang GT350 and had driven it a couple hundred miles from his home to Watkins Glen and had run a SCCA BP race and done well against real racecars w his street legal GT350. i bought a 65 GT350 the following year.
the 65 GT350 (the only real GT350), come to think of it, might be the perfect template for my FD... towards the slippery slope but not quite over it. a lifetime of playing near the edge and 22 full seasons of SCCA Nat roadracing have taught me to respect the "SMS."
there are a million things i could still do to my FD to go faster ontrack but i don't like the tradeoffs on some of them.
still...
i designed and built a twin Garrett TO4 turbosystem that delivers over 80 lbs/minute to the motor. that's GT42 territory... the difference being i only have to run 18 psi to get it. spool is alot like OEM. it was all about respecting the tradeoffs.
instead of running a big noisy fuelpump i run a nice quiet Cosmo w a Kenne Bell Boost A Pump that juices the volts but only under boost.
i run an Exedy Hyper Single clutch that is easy on the leg and long on engineering.
suspension has always been my strong suit... i run Tein HA 432 front and 378 rear springs and the car is always a joy to drive both on and off the track.
one of my more interesting mods for 06 is a methanol injection system... (no water)
my car is on the road from april thru nov being in wisconsin... last year i rolled up approx 7500 miles. i windsurf alot and often you'll see my car w my board and masts on the roof w a couple of sails and my boom inside.
i do hope each of us is successful in modding our cars to the point where we REALLY get what we want.
an FD is a terrible thing to waste.
howard coleman
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north east corner, but go to school in muncie. I kind of wish i would have kept the pop ups, but am thinking now about going with re n1 everything. and sleek headlights
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I really was only wanting around 385-400 horsepower, and I was planning on getting the gt35 turbo, but if the 500r responds just as fast and flows more up top, why not get it
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Originally Posted by howard coleman
i run an Exedy Hyper Single clutch that is easy on the leg and long on engineering.
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over 400...
the Exedy Hyper single cerametallic should hold your GT35rs t4.
you do have (Exedy D core twin) what i consider to be the best clutch for the FD however. once i get fully dialed i will probably need to upgrade to the same setup.
let us know how it works for you.
howard coleman
the Exedy Hyper single cerametallic should hold your GT35rs t4.
you do have (Exedy D core twin) what i consider to be the best clutch for the FD however. once i get fully dialed i will probably need to upgrade to the same setup.
let us know how it works for you.
howard coleman