DMRH

Here are the stats for the FD RX-7 sales for those that wanted to know. Straight from Mazda Japan.

Series-6.........( Oct-91 - Dec-95 ) = 45,596

Series-7.........( Jan-96 - Nov-98 ) = 09,754

Series-8.........( Dec-98 - Aug-02 )= 12,951

FD RX-7 total...............................= 69,301

This is total sales for export & domestic versions..............

Sounds a lot until you learn Mazda did 811,000 RX-7s in total. (3 generations)

The series-6 was exported through out the world, hence its higher sales figures.

The series-7 was Japan & Australia only

The series-8 was Japan only.

Best sales year was 1992...........26,899. Released onto the world stage that year. Most 1992 models sold in the USA

Biggest contrast was 1993...........6,801. Approximately a 75% drop in sales. That signed the (export) death warrant for the end of the series-6

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KaiFD3S

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wow that much huh...

scotty305

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Do you have numbers for the Cosmo as well? I mean, how many Mazda Rotary Engines have been produced lately?

-s-

DaiOni

the production dates you mention and the australian 'series' terminology don't match.

the japanese divide the FD production runs into 6 separate 'series':

I 91-93
II 93-95 (I and II parallal what they got in the US)
III 95 (these are what the australians got up to 98)
IV 96-98
V 98-00
VI 00-02

the three big divisions are I-III, IV and V-VI. That's what series 6, 7, 8 should really be. Therefore, if you wanted to be really pedantic, australia didn't really get series 7. But then again, it's australian terminology, so it's a battle of semantics that goes around in circles...

DaiOni

just to clarify that, australia got I, II, and they were the only country outside of japan to get the III.

That's why australian owners keep buying 16bit PFCs for their 'series 7' cars and finding that the harnesses don't match up.

samiralfey

And how many are still alive? About half?

DMRH

Australia got the 1,2,3 & FD3S-40000, (96-98) just not with the 16-bit ECU or some other goodies. One shoud research their facts before they attempt to steel thunder.......

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DaiOni

lol, pretty weak thunder. If you think flying the owned flag will make bullshit into wine, then more power to you.

what you are describing is something that aesthetically looks like a type IV, but doesn't have the mechanical upgrades - that is a type III.

the '4' chassis code won't help you either - as I've personally verified that some of the type III cars carried that code.

so you can keep getting your info 'straight from mazda japan', or whatever website you got it from. I'll go down to my local mazda dealership in japan, talk to them, and read the references they have.

DaiOni

...and you might want to dig a little deeper - you'll find that mazda australia was roundly criticised by local motoring journalists for not passing on the updated model.

so whatever view you want to take, the bottom line is that the australian FD, after 95, was simply an outdated version - that's unarguable.

chopstix

so whatever view you want to take, the bottom line is that the australian FD, after 95, was simply an outdated version - that's unarguable.[/QUOTE]

So Australia never brought in the series IV FD? (Japanese system that is.) Aussie series terminology is confusing.

j9fd3s

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even though they stopped making the 95's in 12/95, and they only sold 529 of em, in the usa, you could still find new ones on dealer lots as late as summer of 1997. maybe the same thing happened in your neck of the woods?

SP-II

I own an Australian delivered series-IV FD as you put it. It apears this little kid above is splitting hairs trying to cover his mistakes. I'd suggest you crawl under a rock now little boy.

Like dmrh pointed out, Australia was the only country outside Japan to get the 96-98 version (or series-IV FD or series-7 RX-7 or whatever). My Aussie spec RX-7 has the FD3S-4 VIN stamped into it, not an FD3S3 VIN as our little boy is wrongly trying to confuse you all with. Agreed, we didn't get the 16 bit ecu upgrade. So because the australian version didn't get that upgrade how does that make our FD3S4 versions an FD3S3 version. Some people are so wound up in their own little worlds they cant see tell the real world from their fake one.

For the record. My RX-7 is FD3S4000021 or the 21st "version-4" sold by Mazda Australia back in 1996.

SayNoToPistons

now i just wanna know how many were sold in the us and how many are left. lol

FDNewbie

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Gosh...why all the hostility? I'd just like to get to the bottom of it. No need to get all up in each others' faces... Can't we all just get along?

dradon03

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I am sure that if the roads in North America weren't 80% highways that the Rx-7 would have sold in much greater numbers.

DaiOni

hi marcus, I see your 'guru' friend is calling in some allies.

Your chassis code is irrelevant to the point I'm trying to make - which is that the 'series 7' isn't really an upgraded car - it's almost completely a version III.

Mazda Japan will tell you that some version III cars wear a IV chassis code - there was clearly an overlap period. I know this for fact - because it changed my opinion on the matter - and I actually researched it at a mazda dealership in japan. I know my information is completely accurate. I know you simply can't get your head around that. Too bad.

All Australia got was another car in the s6 mould. What that is worth, is up to you to decide.

IMO (and I agree it's a battle of semantics) - you shouldn't transpose australian terminology over japanese data. That's the bottom line point I've tried to make here.

here's a question for you - what makes a version IV different to a version III?


BTW - the language you've used to label me as a 'kid' is incredibly ironic.

sevensix

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series 7 = efini y-pipe, efini "whale tail" wing, round tail lights?

DaiOni

the version III had the whale tail (III is typically called 'series 6')

australian series 7 doesn't have the round tailights, doesn't have an updated y-pipe (hmm... just like a version III...)

there's more!

DaiOni

and if we're going to play the nitpicking game:

"Biggest contrast was 1993...........6,801. Approximately a 75% drop in sales. That signed the (export) death warrant for the end of the series-6"


that's a domestic sales figure. The global sales figure for 93 was 11,431.

sevensix

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whats the answer? ^

seems like u're saying that the revision III fd's are some kind of in-between spec fds that have mixed characteristics between the cars we got in the US aka series 6, and true japanese series 7 cars.

chopstix

[QUOTE=SP-II]I own an Australian delivered series-IV FD as you put it. It apears this little kid above is splitting hairs trying to cover his mistakes. I'd suggest you crawl under a rock now little boy.

I dont know who exactly your talking to, but if its me I was only asking a question, not making a statement.

DaiOni

lol, I think that wonderfully crude insult was aimed at me - gotta love keyboard warriors.

if you think about it - the I and the II parallal perfectly with export version (albeit with their slight variations - pollution gear, added options), yet what happened with the III (in terms of exports)? Did they just skip to the IV? Then you take a look at what the australian 'series 7' had (or more importantly what it didn't have) and you find yourself looking at _almost_ a carbon copy of the III. Did mazda japan build them all in a version III 'leftovers' mould (just as they did with their runout bathurst-r two seaters) - the evidence certainly hints that it could be the case.

Battyboy

Yep that don't sound like a real series 7 to me.

I'd believe DaiOni on this subject more then anyone else.

DaiOni

well it is a 'real series 7' - because that's what australian's call a 'series 7'. It isn't, however (and IMO), equivalent to a version IV.

At best, it's a hybrid version significantly based on the version III.

The reason I made a comment at all, is because the 'series' terminology keeps being applied to JDM cars - and it doesn't apply. Keep it in context gentlemen, please.

sevensix

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so version III = I/II with a whaletail

australian market summary:

I - 91-93
II - 93-95
III - 95-98