cruser

Nice run!!! What are your mods & was that on drag radials?

JONSKI

Mods?

suprfast

get a helmet and run lower than 12 you will still get booted. you need a cage for under 12. DAMN RULES. why are they such a rikki
kris

Krisiun

NHRA rules say no roll cage needed for 11 and over. Unless you are a convertable

http://www.texasmotorplex.com/rules.php

JoeD

whats the point of posting a 1/4 mile time, when you dont list your mods??

JONSKI

So people think you are running close to stock when in fact you've dropped $10K+ into your car and you ran a relatively measly 12.763s @ 112.90mph. Other than that, I'd say he just forgot. It's a respectable run if he is close to stock and riding on DOT tires, so in the midst of all the excitement it may have slipped his mind.

elizer

i am pretty sure he is running close to stock and i don't think he dropped 10k into his car. you sound really snobby and bitchy in that post considering you have an automatic touring lets not make fun of a measly 12.763 ok?

to_slow

iTrader: (3)

Se what I don't understand how did you get 12.7 on just 11.5 psi . I run 14 psi my lowest run was 13 flat !

JoeD

has it ever crossed your mind that maybe there might be some other factors involved other than boost/hp that determine a 1/4 mile time, such as driver skill, 60 ft. time, temp., altitude of track, track condition, weather or not you granny shift or double-clutch, etc.??

Johnny

Come on Joed...his name says it all

to_slow

iTrader: (3)

Well you might be right ? But next week I get all my coil over and launch kit in .I think I run that low is I cant stop that wheel hop .My 60 foot times are like 2.4 or close to that I cant remember . That might be one of the problems .And I have 18-9.5 in the rear so I think the stock suspension cant keep them heavy as wheals on the ground.In order 4 me to launch good with no wheal hop is at 2k rpm .

JONSKI

I don't suppose you noticed the word that appears just before 'measly'? My statement was not even serious. It was a tender jest containing possible explanations for which Rikki had forgotten to post his mods. If my post did have a point, it would be that if you drop $10k+ into a car, it should run faster than 12.763s @ 112.90mph with proper launching and accelerating techniques. I had not even attempted to compare my car to anyone else's, nor have I ever. That just isn't my style. If you want to accuse someone of saying something that is snobby and bitchy, then accuse yourself.

jimlab

12.763 isn't bad at all. I've seen and heard of people with a lot more horsepower running a lot slower. I only took my car to the track once and ran a best of 12.98 with serious wheel hop... at 119.2 mph, but that's beside the point. Should it have run quicker? Probably, but it didn't. Not on that day.

There is no "should run". There's only did run. You can't compute cubic dollars with paper formulas or computer simulations and say a car can run X. It doesn't work that way. Maybe it could, but that doesn't mean it will.

I think this was discussed when someone posted that Ari Yallon's car was for sale. Just buying a 9-second or 10-second car doesn't mean that you can automatically run that fast. The first person to take that car to the track would probably run a lot slower... if they kept it out of the wall.

You are only as quick as your last pass. No more, no less. It doesn't matter if you have a 10-second car on paper, or if you ran an 11 the last time you were at the track. If you're running 12s or 13s today, that's how quick you are. Don't make excuses, don't talk about what you did last time, just learn to live with the fact that some days you're quick, and some days you're not, and some people never get quick, no matter how much car or power they've bought.

Bottom line, I've seen single turbo cars fail to break into the 12s. I've seen a nearly stock Solo II competitor run a 13.5 on Kumhos on his first pass ever. I've seen guys with fully modified cars over 320 RWHP run 13.8s. Or worse. I've seen people frag their 5-speeds, I've seen two "duded out" RX-7s (VeilSide vs. Mazdaspeed) run a blistering 14.3 to a 14.8. I've seen Abel Ibara rip off an 8.0 flat at 170 mph. I've seen it all. Well, a lot of it, anyway.

And what I've seen tells me that there's no formula to tell you what you're going to run. Asking a crowd of strangers "How much horsepower do you think I have" or "How quick do you think I'll run" is pointless. The only way to find out is to strap your car on a dyno, or take it to the track and find out first hand. And when you do, prepare to be humbled. It's not as easy as pointing your car in the right direction and mashing the gas pedal, believe it or not.

Congratulations on your 12.763, Rikki. I know a lot of people who have done far worse.

kwikrx7

Yeah, I would be tickled pink if I ran a 12.7 for the first time in my car. I don't launch my car at all, I mostly drive it for pleasure with an occasional street race or highway blast but not really into drag racing. But if I was I would be happy with a 12.7 since I don't know all the techniques of launching. I'm sure my car could run low 12s, maybe even high 11s but I would be lucky to get 13s since I've only launched my car 2 times ever. There's a lot of skill to drag racing and for people to make fun of a 12 second pass is ludicrous. 113 mph isn't too shabby either. I'll never find out what my car does in the 1/4 because I don't care what it does. I'd be willing to race anybody from any roll because that's the way I like to race. But if I came on here and told everyone that I ran a 12.7 at 113 mph the first time I went to the track and people say "Your car should be running faster, maybe you have a boost leak" I'd tell them to get a life.

P'cola FD

Forgive me Jim(this isn't an attack, just an observation), but what was that computer program you put your car stats into that shows you what your car should run. Just wondering.

racer rx

Hey Ryan,

Are you sure your boost gauge is working correctly?

With a time like that your car should be about 340 - 360 hp.

But running 11 psi. seems kinda weird. Let me guess
NOS?

please list your mods. congrats on that time though.
jc.

to_slow

iTrader: (3)

Same here !

Supermac

Hey, great time . Reguardless of what you read on the internet, a 12.763 is still incredibly fast. Many of the most respected sports cars in the world have trouble running that.

Thanks for your post, Jim, Its always helpful to see what you have to say.

As soon as you break into the 11's, a full cage is required if you want to run more than 1 run . A Helment is almost always mandatory.

Jameson

GsrSol

Good job Ryan

Makes me feel alot better about my 1/8 mile time, knowing what it can do in the 1/4.

Anybody at Texas Motorplex will kick you out if you run an 11 and don't have a cage. It has happened to people I know.

Dr. Strange

I replying for the Rikki. Im leaving out some stuff. These are only the mods I think pertain to this. Ryan called me last night on his way back from MIR to tell me about it. Ryans a skilled driver and can get a better time. He only got one go before they wanted a helmet or no racing. I think it's a respectable pass. Again he was only tapping into 11 psi. Mods...
13B Street port, HD Apex seals, PMS , DP, MP, Catback,PFS Intake,Act clutch,9.5 flywheel,smog pump removal,
egr valve bypass, Power steering elimination,Crane HI 6
Mazda speed short shift, Pettit water/alternator pullies

WhiteRXseven

Ryan,

Congradulations.. 12's eh??
Thats awesome. especially with only 11psi and one run.
I am sure if you turn up the boost and some more runs. 11's are quite possible..

Its obvious when people don't know about real racing.
when people say stuff like "it should run this and that"
and never even took it to the trak. To some racing light to light is their definition of Race.
People don't understand, how much Power it takes to gain even a 1/2 second in a 1/4 mile.. Even with NOS, you would at the MOST make up only 1/2 second.
this isn't what I think either. It was tested by Car N driver, a while ago.

When I had my street bike.. I ran 11.023 @123mph.
I can't imagine your FD3S keeping up.
Thats sick.

Hey Ryan so when you gonna make my car run that fast?? OH by the way. That REDSUPRA with Single turbo, want a rematch with you.. hahaha
That should be interesting...

justin

Good run.
I also had my first run of the season 12.57 @114.96 2.07 60'time@13lbs.boost,drag radials.
What should be mentioned is that these cars are hard to launch and your times can vary until you
find a method that works best for you.f
Few people see these cars where
I am and clicking off mid 12s in a small little sports car gets alot of attention unwanted or not.
I'm sure when you up your boost a bit your trap speeds and et will get even better.
P.S The fun part was that in the lane next to me was a 5.0 supercharged cobra that ran 12.59 @116.18
Talked to him afterwards,people are very surprised sometimes when they find out how fast these cars can be....