Looking at the thread starter's posts, it sounds like Davin just called up KD and that was the quote he got without Dave ever seeing the car. And only having the owner report that it's a bad cooling seal to go on. Is that the way it went down Davin? Since this has turned into a 4 page shindig it might be nice to know.

In this position, and from a business perspective, i'd much rather give a high quote and come under it than give a low one and go over. And keep in mind, thats all this is, a quote.

 

Read this post, someone posted a complete list of what was done for ~$6k.
https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...0&postcount=18

$2850 for a remanufactured engine from Mazda. There won't be any "oops now that we opened your engine, your housings need to be replaced too. That'll be $1000 extra please."

$1456 is for removal & reinstallation combined. Don't forget they're installing a new wiring harness and all new vacuum lines also. Assuming it's 14 hours of work, you're looking at about $100 / hour, which seems fair enough.


Another thing to consider is rotary engine work is NOT a high-volume thing; I'm sure there are days when they don't get any work at all, and you've got to make up for that somehow. Charging Honda prices for Porsche quantities won't put food on the table. Do you think these guys want to live at poverty level just because they have a 'cool' job?


-s-

 

You must have told us that you had a bunch of internal damage, requiring new parts and wanting porting. Our turn-key, out the door price for removal,rebuild and install on an FD with all new seals, gaskets, fluids etc is $4000. Porting is extra. We also install most upgrades like flywheel, clutch, turbos, DP, etc at no charge during a rebuild, since everything has to be removed anyway. Price also includes initial tuning so the car is running perfectly when it is picked up.

 

I'll Co-sign to that.

 

oh ya, I thought I mentioned it was for a street ported motor, and I do think there was something else involved, I remembered it being between $4400-$5000, and definitly didn't want to under-represent you guys and have someone get upset because they got quoted more . No worries man, you've got my business when the time comes . Everytime I see your signature it makes me want one right now! haha.

 

Last rebuild I had on my car at Gotham was around 5k. That was what is being referred to as 'turn key' service.

If the engine alone is $2400, assuming all your other parts are reusable, ( I doubt it on a 10+ year old car) I would be hesitant to think anything under 3500 would be done right.

 

When I destroyed my last motor... (Street Port w. Single (GT35/40) turbo) I was quoted:
$8,000.00
for the following...

New Reman, as mine had: 2 blown apex seals, 2 rotor housing scarred... 1 Dented rotor... Bad Port work (Non Salvageable Irons)

So, Reman, new Center Cartidge for the 35/40 as the two seals had shredded the turbine wheels... If I wanted the same horsepower as I had before I needed to get another port job... so the reman had to come appart, and be rebuilt... and then there was tuning...

All in all, I thought it was a deal.... but in my heart I couldn't do it, to shell out 8K and have nothing "Better" to show for it.... if I was going from stock to single or something maybe, but it ould have cost more than 8K to do that with a blown motor....

P.S. $1400 for removal alone is $1400 for R&R is a descent price...

-DC

 

R&R 1500
New coils - ~500 IIRC
Basic Rebuild - 3000- includes rotor housings at 600+ each
RB Flywheel - 500

There's 5500

Porting, oil and cooling mods, 3mm Apex seals
(includes machining rotors) and some other
stuff I can't think of at the moment - $1500

$7000 Total

It starts adding up when you add on some goodies.

 

Its not good for a shop to quote a price without explaining what they're getting. We will quote a base price and then let them know it can go up depending on damage to internal parts, accessories etc.. Most of the R&R's we do run around $4k including the motor and port work. We also dont charge extra to install performance parts if the engine is out of the car.

Jason

 

if you get a reman...why would you rebuild it?

 

A lot of rebuilders will not use a blown core. They'll usually start with a reman, then tear it down for porting, oil/coolant passage mods, etc...

Sometimes its cheaper in the end depending on what is reuseable or not with a blown core. With a reman, all you are really out are some coolant o-rings and some labor.

 

thats what i figured.if i was to get a reman i wouldnt be porting it for $1000. isnt worth the extra money for the little bit of power you get out of it.

 

I spent $7000 and I did all the work myself.

New: rotors, rotor housings, stat gear bearings, engine wiring harness, ignition pack harness, clutch, flywheel, and injectors. Had Mazdatrix Dynamic balanced all the internal parts. Rebuilt twins, etc.

Go read Blake's comments on engine building in:
https://www.rx7club.com/pineapple-racing-171/engine-building-thoughts-575631/

 

There are other advantages to breaking open a reman. Typically the side deals benefit from tighter clearancing, and occasionally they aren't balanced as well as they could be.

 

I paid about $7000 for rebuild to stage one, RB catback, stainless brake lines, rat's nest replacement with my own vitron lines, and installation of gauges in the three pod from FlyingRX7. It was the best move I made. Just have to shop around. For a simple rebuild that sounds high, but it all depends on the extras.

 

I paid about $7000 for rebuild to stage one, RB catback, stainless brake lines, rat's nest replacement with my own vitron lines, and installation of gauges in the three pod from FlyingRX7. It was the best move I made. Just have to shop around. For a simple rebuild that sounds high, but it all depends on the extras.