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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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And a few months ago you thought buying a $2k custom e-shaft was a worthy investment.
Who thought that??
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by glenrx7
Who thought that??
The OP.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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glenrx7, is Paul doing first gen carbs anymore? Just curious.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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glenrx7, is Paul doing first gen carbs anymore? Just curious.
No, he stopped due to his other projects. He is focusing on suspension right now.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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Yea, I thought he had quit. Too bad, outstanding work. I have one on my SA.
Has he stopped doing rebuilds too?
His suspension work, is it for RX8's or ?
Sorry for all the questions, and to hijack this thread.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hanman
Yea, I thought he had quit. Too bad, outstanding work. I have one on my SA.
Has he stopped doing rebuilds too?
His suspension work, is it for RX8's or ?
Sorry for all the questions, and to hijack this thread.

Cool, Paul is working on suspension for maita's and second gen rx7 race cars. He is not doing any engines right now. You can check out his site he has updated it some what. There are some funny pics of 2a+ron on there.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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I paid just over $5k for my rebuild at Pettit Racing..So I don't believe $6k is that outrageous..Although,they gave me some good discounts on aftermarket parts that I was going to have them install during my rebuild to help make up for it..
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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I think I will buy a new engine when time comes.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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The price does not seem out of line. I charge $1100 for an R&R, $1000 for a 13b-rew short block rebuild. If your core is good, there are still about $1300 in internal parts that should be replaced, along with around $500 external items, fluids, plugs, etc.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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Davin,

Give an RnR rotary in upland a call. That's where I go.

I know that you are in San Diego and it's kinda far. I live in Chula Vista so i doubt that it's farther for you . They built me a motor almost for over 3 years ago. I put 55k miles on that thing and it ran strong. That is until it blew up because I hit 23 psi by misfurtune a couple of weeks ago. Honestly I think that motor could had gone for another 50k

Steve the main mechanic who stands by his work, and he is always willing to work with his customers. They are not pricey at all either. 909-593-8080 ask for Steve and tell him Elliot from San Diego sent you.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Unholy FD3S
^ agreed
he was talking about people like you, you were the first to reply .

I was quoted ~$5000 for a rebuild including R&R on the motor from banzai, just like the others have said it does not sound outrageous for what you are getting, that is something that should always be kept in mind.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Davin,

Give an RnR rotary in upland a call. That's where I go.

I know that you are in San Diego and it's kinda far. I live in Chula Vista so i doubt that it's farther for you . They built me a motor almost for over 3 years ago. I put 55k miles on that thing and it ran strong. That is until it blew up because I hit 23 psi by misfurtune a couple of weeks ago. Honestly I think that motor could had gone for another 50k

Steve the main mechanic who stands by his work, and he is always willing to work with his customers. They are not pricey at all either. 909-593-8080 ask for Steve and tell him Elliot from San Diego sent you.
the navy moved me back to philly for a bit, the batmobile is still being built up and i am kinda embarassed to show her off yet, that is why i never went to any events out there
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Davin
the navy moved me back to philly for a bit, the batmobile is still being built up and i am kinda embarassed to show her off yet, that is why i never went to any events out there

oh philly huh? nevermind . BAH don't feel too bad other than Sevenstock I haven't been to one single rx7 related event.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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i would never pay more than $3500 for the whole job including new hoses, belts, fluids and a full rebuild. i wouldn't pay over $5000 for everything unless the prior included new housings. for $6000+ you better get something shiney to distract you from that plug in your ***.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by rynberg
You people really have no clue.

$6k for a rebuild using new housings and full R+R (including replacing all the lines, hoses, and other things) is most certainly not a rip-off.

Hell, a fricking reman motor costs $2400 without any labor or any new supporting parts.

People that don't know better should just stay quiet instead of spouting off....

For once me and Rynberg agree. You can find it cheaper, but I would love to see the COMPLETE list of what they are going to do.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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kdr does great work, i woudlnt hesitate to have them do the work on your car. Dave knows his ****! He most likely will be using new housings and what not.... If you want to do it cheaper then your gonna have to rebuild it yourself, but that will easily still cost you in excess of 3000 if you do all the work yourself. If you want to do it the cheapest, take the motor out yourself, send the core to ray crow at malloy mazda, for a new reman. It will cost you ruffly 3000 dollars, plus the cost of new fluids and what not... Your still looking at 3500 to do it yourself... only problem there is, you get what you pay for, reman motors use a lot of used parts, as long as they pass spec, which sometimes isnt hard. Dave has taken apart reman motors before that are just complete junk. With kdr, you will be in good hands, and in my opinion, dave is in the top 5 people in the country when it comes to knowledge on these cars. He can diagnose a problem in no time flat....

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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by rynberg
You people really have no clue.

$6k for a rebuild using new housings and full R+R (including replacing all the lines, hoses, and other things) is most certainly not a rip-off.

Hell, a fricking reman motor costs $2400 without any labor or any new supporting parts.

People that don't know better should just stay quiet instead of spouting off....
That is why I asked if they were taking the engine out.

Of course if you are removing and re-installing the engine plus changing all the related accesories around the motor (harness, lines, gaskets) than 6,000 is not that pricey. Because what you are saying is that for around 6,000 you are bulletproof (so to speak).

Heck I am almost at 6,000 and that is with a used motor.....
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:41 AM
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The idea that you can get a rebuild for about $3K is often quoted on here, and I really don't think it is true. I am sure that some folks have gotten lucky and not needed many parts, found someone to do the labor super-cheap, and squeaked by for $3K. Maybe. But those are the exceptions, not the normal case. I'd guess that most (>75%) rebuilds cost more than $5K when you include all the ancillary items that often need to be replaced in the process (but not including performance upgrades). Hell, if you really grenade your motor, you can spend >$5K on stock engine and turbo parts alone.

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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kdr does great work, i woudlnt hesitate to have them do the work on your car. Dave knows his ****! He most likely will be using new housings and what not.... If you want to do it cheaper then your gonna have to rebuild it yourself, but that will easily still cost you in excess of 3000 if you do all the work yourself. If you want to do it the cheapest, take the motor out yourself, send the core to ray crow at malloy mazda, for a new reman. It will cost you ruffly 3000 dollars, plus the cost of new fluids and what not... Your still looking at 3500 to do it yourself... only problem there is, you get what you pay for, reman motors use a lot of used parts, as long as they pass spec, which sometimes isnt hard. Dave has taken apart reman motors before that are just complete junk. With kdr, you will be in good hands, and in my opinion, dave is in the top 5 people in the country when it comes to knowledge on these cars. He can diagnose a problem in no time flat....

Adam
i do understand that he is one of the best, i am not trying to discredit him here. as always, you do get what you pay for. i was just making sure that this figure was legit
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by maxcooper
The idea that you can get a rebuild for about $3K is often quoted on here, and I really don't think it is true. I am sure that some folks have gotten lucky and not needed many parts, found someone to do the labor super-cheap, and squeaked by for $3K. Maybe. But those are the exceptions, not the normal case. I'd guess that most (>75%) rebuilds cost more than $5K when you include all the ancillary items that often need to be replaced in the process (but not including performance upgrades). Hell, if you really grenade your motor, you can spend >$5K on stock engine and turbo parts alone.

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Max, I just figured out your custom user text....'what would the FSM do'

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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1400 to pull out a motor is a rip off.

It should take like what 4 hour to pull a motor if your a professional. So 300 dollars an hour for labor?

Plus the coolant seals are bad...what is he going to tell him if a rotor and housing is bad. Now its going to be $8000

1400 to pull a motor. Its not a jet engine.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by rogrx7
1400 to pull out a motor is a rip off.
That's typically an R&R price. i.e. they:

Pull the motor
Swap all the accessories/components over to the new motor
Install the new motor
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Well I think before anyone jumps to conclusions. What is it that is actually being done?

He sais it takes 1400 dollars to take it out alone.

2800 for R & R and 3200 for rebuild. Lets not for get the (+) sign.

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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rogrx7
Well I think before anyone jumps to conclusions. What is it that is actually being done?

He sais it takes 1400 dollars to take it out alone.

2800 for R & R and 3200 for rebuild. Lets not for get the (+) sign.
He's being charged $6000 for a turn-key engine rebuild. That means when it's done, he can drive it away. No manual work on his side.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
He's being charged $6000 for a turn-key engine rebuild. That means when it's done, he can drive it away. No manual work on his side.
Well he has the option to get the work done there or not.

Basically, you can get it done for 3000..but if the motor pops because its a crap job. you have to spend even more money.

I would perfer to know what is actually being done for 6000+
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