Why can't MAZDA do this?
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Why can't MAZDA do this?
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It's rhetorical. I'm sure there are a lot of things to consider from a business standpoint. But damn, wouldn't it be awesome if MAZDA, thru MAZDASPEED, started making some of the major components of our cars again? Based on the rise in prices over the past few years and lack of support from MAZDA and aftermarket for things like housings and irons for all generations, I worry how much longer the rotary will be practically viable for anything other than a museum piece.
It's rhetorical. I'm sure there are a lot of things to consider from a business standpoint. But damn, wouldn't it be awesome if MAZDA, thru MAZDASPEED, started making some of the major components of our cars again? Based on the rise in prices over the past few years and lack of support from MAZDA and aftermarket for things like housings and irons for all generations, I worry how much longer the rotary will be practically viable for anything other than a museum piece.
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It's rhetorical. I'm sure there are a lot of things to consider from a business standpoint. But damn, wouldn't it be awesome if MAZDA, thru MAZDASPEED, started making some of the major components of our cars again? Based on the rise in prices over the past few years and lack of support from MAZDA and aftermarket for things like housings and irons for all generations, I worry how much longer the rotary will be practically viable for anything other than a museum piece.
It's rhetorical. I'm sure there are a lot of things to consider from a business standpoint. But damn, wouldn't it be awesome if MAZDA, thru MAZDASPEED, started making some of the major components of our cars again? Based on the rise in prices over the past few years and lack of support from MAZDA and aftermarket for things like housings and irons for all generations, I worry how much longer the rotary will be practically viable for anything other than a museum piece.
Then again...I hope they never reproduce the Mazdaspeed parts I have....I like that they are rare lol
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Right? And how does the level of enthusiasm and buying power of the respective owners compare? Despite some pretty dedicated Z32 and R owners, I think we'd hold our own in market research. Who knows... if NISMO ends up making a buck it MIGHT be the start of a trend.
And just thinking out loud, IMO MAZDA doesn't have a headline grabbing model like the GTR or NSX, so they might see an opportunity to stoke brand enthusiasm this way. And AFAIK, they don't have to worry about CARB or CAFE if they just make the parts...for off-road use only of course.
And just thinking out loud, IMO MAZDA doesn't have a headline grabbing model like the GTR or NSX, so they might see an opportunity to stoke brand enthusiasm this way. And AFAIK, they don't have to worry about CARB or CAFE if they just make the parts...for off-road use only of course.
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It's rhetorical. I'm sure there are a lot of things to consider from a business standpoint. But damn, wouldn't it be awesome if MAZDA, thru MAZDASPEED, started making some of the major components of our cars again? Based on the rise in prices over the past few years and lack of support from MAZDA and aftermarket for things like housings and irons for all generations, I worry how much longer the rotary will be practically viable for anything other than a museum piece.
It's rhetorical. I'm sure there are a lot of things to consider from a business standpoint. But damn, wouldn't it be awesome if MAZDA, thru MAZDASPEED, started making some of the major components of our cars again? Based on the rise in prices over the past few years and lack of support from MAZDA and aftermarket for things like housings and irons for all generations, I worry how much longer the rotary will be practically viable for anything other than a museum piece.
that being said, i do think Mazda Japan does a better job having stuff you need to keep every car running, than Mazda USA does.
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Imagine if Mazda gave 2 ***** about us enthusiasts and quit pushing nothing but minivans cloaked in SUV body panels on the world. What happened to their roots? Their SPORTSCARS?? No one ever wanted to buy a 30 thousand dollar Miata with NAV and Bluetooth, and we still don't. That wasn't the deal.
The RX Vision should have been called the RX Hindsight.
The RX Vision should have been called the RX Hindsight.
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Unfortunately I think it is likely that even if they did start making new parts, they would run into some of the problems vendors here do. A vendor starts making new privacy covers for the hatch and sells like 5 of them, Sakebomb makes a great OEM+ set of headlights and I doubt they are selling a ton of them. I think the car needs to get into the hands of more people willing to dish out the cash before it would help Mazda to start making certain parts again.
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i'm sure for that part, they just call NSC (Nippon Spring) and order some
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Unfortunately I think it is likely that even if they did start making new parts, they would run into some of the problems vendors here do. A vendor starts making new privacy covers for the hatch and sells like 5 of them, Sakebomb makes a great OEM+ set of headlights and I doubt they are selling a ton of them. I think the car needs to get into the hands of more people willing to dish out the cash before it would help Mazda to start making certain parts again.
and we are a bit lucky because Mazda is small, and thus our community can have a larger voice.
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If I remember correctly Mazda started to make parts for the 4-rotor drift car that mad mike drives.
I don't see Mazda in the position to start catering to enthusiasts, hear me out.
Enthusiasts don't make up for much in Mazdas buyers. Selling specifically to such a small market of enthusiast is not a card Mazda can play as of right now. Mazda is trying to grab a chunk of Toyota's mass audience and cant afford to waste resource making parts for old cars. I will give Mazda props to creating some of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen. I just passed by a Mazda dealership today and saw the new CX-5 and CX-9... WOW
Don't even get me started on the interiors...
If Mazda keep on making their ultra competitive line up I think they will succeed in taking market away from Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Ford, Chevy, GM, Hyundai, KIA, Mitsubishi... you get the picture companies that sell "mass audience" cars. I'm not too sure about Subaru though, they keep shattering their year over year sales.
Heck I have recently started to see lots of new Mazdas in Boulder. Boulder, Colorado is dominated by: Subaru, BMW, AUDI, Lexus, Mercedes, Porsche, and Toyota. Recently I have seen lots of CX-9s in Boulder. For the rest of Colorado, seems like all of the Mazdas line up is taking over by storm.
Anyone know how Mazda's sale and profit has been going?
I don't see Mazda in the position to start catering to enthusiasts, hear me out.
Enthusiasts don't make up for much in Mazdas buyers. Selling specifically to such a small market of enthusiast is not a card Mazda can play as of right now. Mazda is trying to grab a chunk of Toyota's mass audience and cant afford to waste resource making parts for old cars. I will give Mazda props to creating some of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen. I just passed by a Mazda dealership today and saw the new CX-5 and CX-9... WOW
Don't even get me started on the interiors...
If Mazda keep on making their ultra competitive line up I think they will succeed in taking market away from Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Ford, Chevy, GM, Hyundai, KIA, Mitsubishi... you get the picture companies that sell "mass audience" cars. I'm not too sure about Subaru though, they keep shattering their year over year sales.
Heck I have recently started to see lots of new Mazdas in Boulder. Boulder, Colorado is dominated by: Subaru, BMW, AUDI, Lexus, Mercedes, Porsche, and Toyota. Recently I have seen lots of CX-9s in Boulder. For the rest of Colorado, seems like all of the Mazdas line up is taking over by storm.
Anyone know how Mazda's sale and profit has been going?
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And as far as I can tell, MAZDA is selling cars to a "mass audience".
As for how they're doing... https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/pre...ar-2016-sales/
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"Ultra competitive"?
And as far as I can tell, MAZDA is selling cars to a "mass audience".
As for how they're doing... https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/pre...ar-2016-sales/
And as far as I can tell, MAZDA is selling cars to a "mass audience".
As for how they're doing... https://insidemazda.mazdausa.com/pre...ar-2016-sales/
You are getting arguably the best looking car in the segment with great MPG, seems like a really competitive line up to me. As for the mass market great MPG, reliability, and price take the crown over performance or even looks.
With that said the fact that Mazda created a vehicle with great MPG, good reliability, great looks (interior and exterior) at such a low price seems like a home run to me.
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It appears that if the demand is there, Mazda will take care of us
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If I remember correctly Mazda started to make parts for the 4-rotor drift car that mad mike drives.
I don't see Mazda in the position to start catering to enthusiasts, hear me out.
Enthusiasts don't make up for much in Mazdas buyers. Selling specifically to such a small market of enthusiast is not a card Mazda can play as of right now.
I don't see Mazda in the position to start catering to enthusiasts, hear me out.
Enthusiasts don't make up for much in Mazdas buyers. Selling specifically to such a small market of enthusiast is not a card Mazda can play as of right now.
1. as a percentage of Mazda owners, us enthusiasts are a higher percentage of the total. i was looking at sales numbers today, and the Ford Escape outsold the Mazda Tribute 10 to 1. that is astounding when you consider that its the same car, mostly.
2. Mazda makes money selling parts. Mazda tooled up to make another batch of REW engines, which they have then sold for a profit. it is cool that they were willing to even look at doing this, but ultimately they need to turn their profit on these things.
if you want the flip side of the coin, we asked Ford if we could get their ad copy without all caps, literally "FORD AUTOMOTIVE CABLE PRODUCTS, AS WELL AS WITH THEIR DEDICATED ASSEMBLIES, CONNECTORS AND HARNESSES, HAVE BEEN THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED AND PRECISION ENGINEERED TO MEET STRICT FORD ENGINEERING STANDARDS FOR FUNCTIONALITY AND DURABILITY"
it went up to the *** lady, and she said no way in hell.
i would venture to say that not in all caps was pretty reasonable, and then there is the other bit where that is the blurb for an A/C compressor, so it doesn't even make sense, but do they care? no.
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Does anybody know how the progress is going for re-chroming housings ? Also I know Pac Performance has had a 20B Billett center plate for years and from what I understand are working on their own housings. What are the odds that the aftermarket starts to ramp up as the cars get older, more collectable and the owners get more affluent ?
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Originally Posted by Moe Greene
I will give Mazda props to creating some of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen. I just passed by a Mazda dealership today and saw the new CX-5 and CX-9... WOW
Don't even get me started on the interiors...
Don't even get me started on the interiors...
180HP/310Tq. Not too sure if they are going to make it AWD , but if they do , it will probably take off faster than stock FD
What is pretty impressive
is that it does 6.6L/100KM ,
20Gallon tank and your gone for 1000km(620miles) of driving. Which is crazy!!!