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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by c0rbin9
^ That's a good point, though stock catback is 31 lbs. according to the gains per part added thread. But yeah, still heavy.
I have a full OEM exhaust set, maybe I'll weight them. The catback weight is night and day compare to the Ganador Ti and the FEED Sonic Ti I have.
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 03:16 PM
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Titanium cat-back is no contest, I had a Ganador a while back that I could literally pick up with one finger. It almost felt "fake" it was so lightweight.

Many of the TI systems are like 9 pounds or something, that's just nuts.

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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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Yup, you can definitely hold one up by the muffler hanger with just 1 finger
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Old Jan 20, 2022 | 04:31 PM
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Can confirm the Ganador Vertex is pinky weight. I thought the box was empty when I received mine years back . I’m still into a sequential Fd, nothing like it.


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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gdub29e
I’m still into a sequential Fd, nothing like it.

~ GW

It’s been 30+ years of advancements considering it was all conceived and designed well before production began

Is it possible that you just haven’t experience yet what is possible now? Pretty sure it’s not what most FD owners will want to hear, but they might consider that … maybe.

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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
It’s been 30+ years of advancements considering it was all conceived and designed well before production began

Is it possible that you just haven’t experience yet what is possible now? Pretty sure it’s not what most FD owners will want to hear, but they might consider that … maybe.

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I’m not exactly sure what you’re driving at here, but I think you’re implying the twins are dated. I’ll have to agree with you on that. You’re on the single kick, I get that. I’ve enjoyed your post in the single turbo section. Neat to see that modern tech. I do have one FD with a modern single and one with sequential’s. Not sure if that has any bearing or not. There’s no doubt the advantages of modern tech and sadly you’re right “most” owners won’t wanna look past their own choices. Having said that, these cars are bridging the thirty year mark as you pointed out. If I wanted something super modern and advanced I wouldn’t be knee deep in rotary. But that’s just me personally. The sequential FD is it’s on experience. It’s unique and thrilling which I feel matches the cars personally and character. Driving both cars back to back I still prefer the sequential one. It’s just flat out fun. Some with agree and many will definitely disagree with me but I’m still into a sequential Fd, for all it’s virtues and vices, there’s nothing like it.

~ GW

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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by gdub29e
I’m not exactly sure what you’re driving at here, but I think you’re implying the twins are dated. I’ll have to agree with you on that. You’re on the single kick, I get that. I’ve enjoyed your post in the single turbo section. Neat to see that modern tech. I do have one FD with a modern single and one with sequential’s. Not sure if that has any bearing or not. There’s no doubt the advantages of modern tech and sadly you’re right “most” owners won’t wanna look past their own choices. Having said that, these cars are bridging the thirty year mark as you pointed out. If I wanted something super modern and advanced I wouldn’t be knee deep in rotary. But that’s just me personally. The sequential FD is it’s on experience. It’s unique and thrilling which I feel matches the cars personally and character. Driving both cars back to back I still prefer the sequential one. It’s just flat out fun. Some with agree and many will definitely disagree with me but I’m still into a sequential Fd, for all it’s virtues and vices, there’s nothing like it.

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I enjoyed my sequential setup but I live in Fl and I am not a mechanic. My single turbo setup makes more reliable power and is also fun to drive. To be straight forward I like both.
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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by spintriangles
I enjoyed my sequential setup but I live in Fl and I am not a mechanic. My single turbo setup makes more reliable power and is also fun to drive. To be straight forward I like both.

For sure. A lot of fun in both. I would imagine a lot of Fd owners never experienced a properly working sequential’s car. Most have already been converted long before acquired or abandoned for fear of “ reliability“. I think the whole “reliable” thing is subjective tho. Put new solenoids in and enjoy some trouble free years of enjoyment. Unpopular opinion, but the Rx7’s biggest issue are the owners. We can’t leave them alone. Me included

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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 10:12 PM
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I’m not on a single kick. Just go to the Single Turbo forum area and click on the Twin Turbo Pics thread (it’s about aftermarket twins, not the OE FD twins). If I’m driving at anything, it’s that I just don’t believe the latest and greatest technology is well represented on this 30 year old car forum. And when I saw someone claim the twins are still the greatest representation on a 30 yo car and I’m taking exception to it is all. It’s not really a big deal to me at all though because an FD3 is only that to me; a 30 yo old car that I have fond memories of, but am likely to never own again. The REW makes a great RX8 engine conversion though.

So any way I forgot that I had hand overlayed a Garrett G25/30-660 compressor map outline onto the EFR7670 compressor map maybe 5 or 6 months ago. Just happened to thumb across it looking for something else and decided to post it up here. The line in the middle is the efficiency island centerline. It being further to the right, and also having a T4 twin scroll housing option that can support it, is why someone wanting ~50 whp more than a 7670, but not an 8374 might consider it as a single option. It also has more resistance to early boost surge over on the left side of the map, but whether it can get there or not remains to be seen.



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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 10:59 PM
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But how is the spooooool?

And then you need waste gates and a bov
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Old Jan 22, 2022 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamRX8
. And when I saw someone claim the twins are still the greatest representation on a 30 yo car and I’m taking exception to it is all.
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I think it would be best for you to re read my statement … I did not once in any of my post claim the above. Or imply it. That’s how miss information on this forum starts right there. My statement was “ I’m still into a sequential Fd, nothing like it.“ Maybe you just miss interpreted my meaning. I believe that’s where the miscommunication started . I do agree that the latest and greatest technology is poorly represented here though. Anywho, I still enjoy the sequential’s FD to this day even if others have moved on to greener pastures.

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