RX7 Brilliant Black PX and PZ Difference?
07-12-17, 01:01 PM
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RX7 Brilliant Black PX and PZ Difference?
Hello!
I know this question has been asked multiple times and there are a lot of threads on it but I''m still asking whats the difference between the two brillant black colors that Mazda offered for RX7. PX and PZ.
My car originally was PX from the factory but now it has a 25G Paint job and I'm planning to go back to factory color.
Also pictures of both would be helpfull.
Thanks,
Fahad
I know this question has been asked multiple times and there are a lot of threads on it but I''m still asking whats the difference between the two brillant black colors that Mazda offered for RX7. PX and PZ.
My car originally was PX from the factory but now it has a 25G Paint job and I'm planning to go back to factory color.
Also pictures of both would be helpfull.
Thanks,
Fahad
07-12-17, 01:07 PM
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In the US at least I'm only aware of the PZ color code for brilliant black.
You can probably Google around on that paint code, Mazda rarely uses a color just for one car or something, you can probably find pictures of the paint. Or, work with a paint shop, they may be able to look up the code, look up the "mix" that goes into it, and tell you what the difference is. One may have more "sparkle", be a little darker, etc.
You can typically have paint shops spray speed shapes or something with different colors to test as well.
Dale
You can probably Google around on that paint code, Mazda rarely uses a color just for one car or something, you can probably find pictures of the paint. Or, work with a paint shop, they may be able to look up the code, look up the "mix" that goes into it, and tell you what the difference is. One may have more "sparkle", be a little darker, etc.
You can typically have paint shops spray speed shapes or something with different colors to test as well.
Dale
07-12-17, 01:08 PM
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Found this -
Mazda Color Codes - PZ model/year code PZ Cross-Reference
Looks like it's pretty much the same paint code. They may have named it differently in different markets, who knows.
Dale
Mazda Color Codes - PZ model/year code PZ Cross-Reference
Looks like it's pretty much the same paint code. They may have named it differently in different markets, who knows.
Dale
07-12-17, 02:13 PM
#4
Found this -
Mazda Color Codes - PZ model/year code PZ Cross-Reference
Looks like it's pretty much the same paint code. They may have named it differently in different markets, who knows.
Dale
Mazda Color Codes - PZ model/year code PZ Cross-Reference
Looks like it's pretty much the same paint code. They may have named it differently in different markets, who knows.
Dale
If PX does not have clearcoat what is applied over base coat thats what I'm confused in...
07-12-17, 04:00 PM
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Paints can be single stage where it's just one shiny coat of paint. Most spray paint cans at the store are like this, think about it.
If you pay for a quality paint job, it's worth paying for clear coat. Single stage is kind of a cheaper way to do it. Clearcoat gives more surface on top to buff/wet sand out for a really quality finish.
I think in the US some colors on the FD, like Vintage Red, were single stage from the factory. I'm sure there's a more detailed reason why.
Dale
If you pay for a quality paint job, it's worth paying for clear coat. Single stage is kind of a cheaper way to do it. Clearcoat gives more surface on top to buff/wet sand out for a really quality finish.
I think in the US some colors on the FD, like Vintage Red, were single stage from the factory. I'm sure there's a more detailed reason why.
Dale
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07-13-17, 11:19 AM
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I'm probably wrong, but this got me thinking.
Remember in the late 80's/early 90's the EPA was clamping down hard on things like automotive paint. That's why a lot of cars from the early 90s have peeling clearcoat...because the industry was still figuring out how to make the paint pass EPA standards and stay on the car. Notice how a lot of white S5s have peeling paint? I think white might have been one of the harder colors to make work.
Maybe one code is a newer formula of the same color than the other. An upgrade from the peeling stuff..?
Remember in the late 80's/early 90's the EPA was clamping down hard on things like automotive paint. That's why a lot of cars from the early 90s have peeling clearcoat...because the industry was still figuring out how to make the paint pass EPA standards and stay on the car. Notice how a lot of white S5s have peeling paint? I think white might have been one of the harder colors to make work.
Maybe one code is a newer formula of the same color than the other. An upgrade from the peeling stuff..?
09-01-20, 09:41 PM
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bringing this back since I found it searching for BB paint codes, and i may have found an answer to help someone in the future.
this is from a miata forum
1992 MAZDA MIATA
3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G)
6W - Perky Blue Metallic Clearcoat
DU - Mariner Blue
HZ - Sunburst Yellow (extra-cost; only 1519 HZ cars built)
PX - Brilliant Black
PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat
SU - Classic Red
UC - Crystal White
It would seem one is clearcoat and one isnt.
this is from a miata forum
1992 MAZDA MIATA
3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G)
6W - Perky Blue Metallic Clearcoat
DU - Mariner Blue
HZ - Sunburst Yellow (extra-cost; only 1519 HZ cars built)
PX - Brilliant Black
PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat
SU - Classic Red
UC - Crystal White
It would seem one is clearcoat and one isnt.
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09-04-20, 07:57 PM
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I'm wondering if the difference might be the "high-reflex" paint used on the touring package cars vs. the other models? I can tell you the Vintage Red on my base car is not clear coated as I've polished off plenty of red (too much in a few spots) over the years
09-06-20, 08:34 AM
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True, but that was only if your car was painted with what they called the "high-reflex" process, as included with the touring package. I believe the 3 stages are base color, a tinted mid coat followed by clear. As I said, my base, Vintage Red car (paint code NU) is definitely not clear coated.
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True, but that was only if your car was painted with what they called the "high-reflex" process, as included with the touring package. I believe the 3 stages are base color, a tinted mid coat followed by clear. As I said, my base, Vintage Red car (paint code NU) is definitely not clear coated.
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