RX7 Brilliant Black PX and PZ Difference?
Hello!
I know this question has been asked multiple times and there are a lot of threads on it but I''m still asking whats the difference between the two brillant black colors that Mazda offered for RX7. PX and PZ. My car originally was PX from the factory but now it has a 25G Paint job and I'm planning to go back to factory color. Also pictures of both would be helpfull. Thanks, Fahad |
In the US at least I'm only aware of the PZ color code for brilliant black.
You can probably Google around on that paint code, Mazda rarely uses a color just for one car or something, you can probably find pictures of the paint. Or, work with a paint shop, they may be able to look up the code, look up the "mix" that goes into it, and tell you what the difference is. One may have more "sparkle", be a little darker, etc. You can typically have paint shops spray speed shapes or something with different colors to test as well. Dale |
Found this -
Mazda Color Codes - PZ model/year code PZ Cross-Reference Looks like it's pretty much the same paint code. They may have named it differently in different markets, who knows. Dale |
Originally Posted by DaleClark
(Post 12199502)
Found this -
Mazda Color Codes - PZ model/year code PZ Cross-Reference Looks like it's pretty much the same paint code. They may have named it differently in different markets, who knows. Dale If PX does not have clearcoat what is applied over base coat thats what I'm confused in... |
Paints can be single stage where it's just one shiny coat of paint. Most spray paint cans at the store are like this, think about it.
If you pay for a quality paint job, it's worth paying for clear coat. Single stage is kind of a cheaper way to do it. Clearcoat gives more surface on top to buff/wet sand out for a really quality finish. I think in the US some colors on the FD, like Vintage Red, were single stage from the factory. I'm sure there's a more detailed reason why. Dale |
My 93 BB is also PZ but had a clear coat on it. The clear failed a few years back so I had it repainted.
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My 03/92 FD R1 BB PZ had a clear coat.
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My euro PZ 94 does not have clearcoat
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Can someone please post photos of both paint jobs?
Is there any difference other then clear? Which looks better? My car originally had PX. |
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Originally Posted by Zepticon
(Post 12199769)
Mine:
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...c1c0521a54.jpg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...a372aaa6e9.jpg what color is this? PZ or PX. |
If you read the post above the one you asked for pictures in it says PZ ;)
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Originally Posted by Zepticon
(Post 12199787)
If you read the post above the one you asked for pictures in it says PZ ;)
Also how do you tell if the color does have clear or doesn't? |
I'm probably wrong, but this got me thinking.
Remember in the late 80's/early 90's the EPA was clamping down hard on things like automotive paint. That's why a lot of cars from the early 90s have peeling clearcoat...because the industry was still figuring out how to make the paint pass EPA standards and stay on the car. Notice how a lot of white S5s have peeling paint? I think white might have been one of the harder colors to make work. Maybe one code is a newer formula of the same color than the other. An upgrade from the peeling stuff..? |
bringing this back since I found it searching for BB paint codes, and i may have found an answer to help someone in the future.
this is from a miata forum 1992 MAZDA MIATA 3L - Silver Stone Metallic Clearcoat (also coded as 4G) 6W - Perky Blue Metallic Clearcoat DU - Mariner Blue HZ - Sunburst Yellow (extra-cost; only 1519 HZ cars built) PX - Brilliant Black PZ - Brilliant Black Clearcoat SU - Classic Red UC - Crystal White It would seem one is clearcoat and one isnt. |
^^ Good to know.
With regards to the old request: Personally I would not make a judgement between two similar paint colors based on what I see on a computer screen, especially black lol |
Originally Posted by fzkhan7
(Post 12199838)
Sorry missed that. So how come your PZ does not have clear?
Also how do you tell if the color does have clear or doesn't? |
I'm wondering if the difference might be the "high-reflex" paint used on the touring package cars vs. the other models? I can tell you the Vintage Red on my base car is not clear coated as I've polished off plenty of red (too much in a few spots) over the years
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Vintage Red was a 3 stage paint job from Mazda when applied correctly it looks really nice. I am not sure if a clear coat was added to the finish.
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Originally Posted by 2-Rotor
(Post 12433106)
Vintage Red was a 3 stage paint job from Mazda when applied correctly it looks really nice. I am not sure if a clear coat was added to the finish.
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I have the Vintage Red NT - no clearcoat on mine either.
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Originally Posted by jsesq
(Post 12433217)
I have the Vintage Red NT - no clearcoat on mine either.
Base Coat is whitish then a Mid Coat Red then CC |
Originally Posted by RX7gp
(Post 12433129)
True, but that was only if your car was painted with what they called the "high-reflex" process, as included with the touring package. I believe the 3 stages are base color, a tinted mid coat followed by clear. As I said, my base, Vintage Red car (paint code NU) is definitely not clear coated.
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Originally Posted by fzkhan7
(Post 12433266)
Vintage Red NU is 3 Stage.
Base Coat is whitish then a Mid Coat Red then CC |
Originally Posted by fzkhan7
(Post 12433266)
Vintage Red NU is 3 Stage.
Base Coat is whitish then a Mid Coat Red then CC
Originally Posted by RX7gp
(Post 12433323)
Well, not in the US. I just double-checked and my car is NU. As a base car it is definitely not 3 stage
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...235579c5fc.png |
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