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Electronic MOP: how are they controlled?

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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 07:34 PM
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Electronic MOP: how are they controlled?

Howdy, folks!

I’m curious how electronic MOP output is controlled. What is coming down the wires to its little brain to affect the oil delivery?
Is it a variable voltage? Is it constant voltage, but varied pulse width?
Anyone know?
Anyone know actual specifics?

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Old Dec 12, 2020 | 08:49 PM
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According to section D of the FSM it looks like voltage directly from the ECU, there's 7 wires going to the MOP. 1.1V at idle at idle and it goes up with acceleration. It's a stepper motor inside with a position sensor.
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Old Dec 13, 2020 | 07:37 AM
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Old Dec 13, 2020 | 09:58 AM
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it works exactly the same as a drive by wire throttle, there is a stepper motor to move the plunger, and a position sensor so the ecu knows that what it commanded actually happened.
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Old Dec 13, 2020 | 01:52 PM
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I don't have great data, but I measured the OMP position sensor voltage a long time ago. The position increased with RPM during a full-throttle pull at 10-11psi, which makes sense because the amount of oil should probably mirror the fuel flow.
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 06:10 AM
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^That’s my understanding too. Load AND rpm.
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
it works exactly the same as a drive by wire throttle, there is a stepper motor to move the plunger, and a position sensor so the ecu knows that what it commanded actually happened.
True statement. If you look at the FSM schematic wiring diagram, you'll see that the MOP stepper motor consists of 4 coil windings, arranged as 2 pairs of windings with a common terminal that goes to +12V when the car/ECU is powered up. So it's a unipolar 6 terminal stepper motor, 2 terminals (common to each coil pair) go to +12V and each of the remaining 4 terminals get pulled to ground on command via the ECU (i.e., 0 = ECU keeps an open circuit, that coil winding is NOT energized, and 1 = ECU connects to ground, coil circuit is completed & energized). In effect, the stepper motor plunger can be moved to any of 16 different positions from min to max plunger range (2^4 = 16 possible states).
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 07:16 AM
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The 2009+ Rx-8 OMP has a totally different and more modern design with plungers that are controlled by the ECU. Too bad that redesign came so late.
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Old Dec 17, 2020 | 09:27 PM
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Thanks, guys! That is great info!
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