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Truck braking is a little different. As I understand the brakes on trucks no matter what size are not supposed to be able take slamming and hard pedal depression, but to "pull" the weight of the truck and any trailer to a stop. Good luck with the install.

True bigger brakes add more torque and increase "pedal feel" but the biggest advantage on our cars has been eliminating fade. It seems that a few guys with 400+ hp FCs that track regularly are having difficulty repeatedly slowing all that power down. Brake bite is not bad, its the fade they're complaining about.

For the weight of our cars, the brakes are good, but twenty years old. There are some improvements to made before going with a big brake kit. Its sounds like your car NEEDs a flush, rotors, and pads atleast. Think about the weight of your new wheels and tires versus the stock ones and make your choice from there.

Black91n/a

The problem stated above is due to the pad selection. A more aggressive pad selection will have more initial bite and with a higher coefficient of friction will be able to give more power for a given pressure. Something like the HP+ can be good there, they've got fairly high torque but they are noisy and dusty. If they were just crappy generic pads you may be encountering pad fade.

Big brakes do increase the power of the brakes, but stops won't get shorter unless you'd previously lost the ability to provide sufficient torque to lock the wheels. They are perfectly adaquate for 2400lb race cars running 9.5" wide slicks and ~200whp. But the TII guys will be heavier, faster down the straights and slower around the corners, giving the brakes a real torture test. You can't really reasonably expect any car's brakes to withstand doubling the power or more and taking it to the track on R's and having it survive perfectly. At that point then a big brake kit is always needed. Two piece rotors for the stock brakes are available through AWR FWIW.

As I said before from what I read it would seem that Z32 300ZX brakes are NO BIGGER than ours, and the calipers look about the same. So much for an "upgrade". I also listed a number of other possible swaps, and provided a link to another kit to adapt FD stuff to the FC.

If you want better feel on an NA, then installing the TII MC and booster would be a good idea, as it's bigger and should help. Also, installing an MC brace is HIGHLY RECCOMENDED. Its not hard to make one and it does good things for feel by reducing firewall flex. Get a friend to stand on the pedal while you look at the MC and you'll see it flexing up and out. SS or new OEM lines also will help, as the old stock lines will be quite soft by now and should be replaced anyway.

My car has SS lines and an MC brace and the brakes feel awesome, even compared to my uncle's Porsche Cayman S they still feel good.

Force Fed

Flush the brake fluid and refill w/ good hi-temp stuff, like SVT or something. You'd be surprised how much brake fluid heats up even in 5-10 mins. I've had cheap AutoZone brake fluid boiling in 10 mins of hard downhill running, also pads started to fade at the same time (cheap pads).

Good clean fluid and good pads can make a lot of difference. Also stainless braided brake lines can improve feel slightly.

dw89s5

i believe the reason people think that ss lines do so much is that they are running 20 lines and 20 fluid and of course when u put brand new lines and fluid its going to make a huge difference if u can lock up your tires your braking system is adaquate u need to think about wheels and tires

the only thing holding u to the road is your tires people dont cheap out

oh yea and this huge arguement was supposed to be about the z32 brake upgrade

Black91n/a

But when talking about an upgrade its perfectly reasonable to talk about why and alternatives. Besides, I've said it twice already.

IT'S NOT AN UPGRADE, THEY'RE THE SAME SIZE!!!!!