AUGieDogie

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So yesterday after sitting for about an hour I wented out to start my car and naturally it won't start.

Its an 87 T2 50k on rebuild.

First i figured it was just flooded so i pushed the gas pedal to the floor. this should trigger the fuel cut on my Rtek. Nope

so I pulled the eng inj fues under the hood (second from engine) I haven't had to do this since the rtek. Nada

Today i went to do the "hard flood fix" pulled the plugs pulled the fuse crank it over. Not really much in the way of gas coming out of the holes and the only the Rear leading plug was wet. Squirted oil in the plug holes, cranked a little and installed Brand New plugs. fuse back in pedal all the way down and zilch. Not even a hint of a plug fireing.

Checked for spark on the leads and got a weak one (low bat) on the leading.

I cant' tell if instead of flooding its not getting fuel, I cant hear my loud *** Walrbo. I can't remember should i hear it when i turn the key to ign?

The other thing that seamed strange is that i was getting FI pulses of 1.5ms with the eng inj fuse pulled. I got the same reading with the fuse in but my accel pedal floored. That one seems kind of wierd to me. When i let go of the pedal i got like 5ms or so, iirc.

So what should i check next??

HELP as this is the third rex that i have down AND the damn LeBaron that I have been using when rexie is giving me trouble. P/S failure, took two weeks to fix that which lasted about 2 days of driving it.

HAILERS

I think if the EGI COMP fuse was pulled then you'd see no inj pulse on the RTEK. The EGI INJ just kills pwr to the injectors themselves. The computer is probably still outputting a ground pulse since the fuse for the computer is still alive.

Either EGI COMP or EGI INJ should kill fuel when trying to start the car with a fuse pulled..........or both pulled you'd get the same result of no fuel injected.

On a stk series four and stk wiring, the fuel pump will not ever run by just putting the key to ON unless the yellow fuel pump check connector is jumpered. There is/was no Prime on a series four car.

I don't know what else to do. I'd pull the plug off the fuel pump. Leave all other fuses in. Get a can of starter fluid. Charge the battery full. Spin the engine over with the pedal to the floor for??? fifteen seconds or so.

Then spray starter fluid into the snorkel in front of the air filter for no more than three seconds. Then foot to the floor and try to start the car.

Might make sure you still have spark prior to doing that to affirm the Engine fuse is still good and not blown. Got a spare CAS??? Probably do. So connect it to the harness......key to ON only...........spin the bottom gear of the CAS while one of the LEAD sparkplug wires is barely hanging in its bore. That wire should spark when the CAS is spun by hand. Don't have to spin very fast at all. Just two or three times a second or thereabouts will be fine. Even a slower rotation should make it spark. Just doing this to affirm spark without draining the battery with the starter.

NEVER waste money buying Trail sparkplugs for this type problem.....ever. Maybe Leads, but not trails.

AUGieDogie

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I actually did pulp the two inermost fuses egi inj and egi comp. I didn't check the inj pulse like that though.

I'm going to jumper the fuel pump and see that it turns on ( I got a spare in one of my verts just in case)

I don't think I ever needed to use either to start this one. My first vert i did occasionally. But I do have a can so i'll try that.

I actually don't have a spare CAS, at least not that I know of. I'll just test the plug wires one by one.

And I didn't waste any money on plugs, I always have a spare set, and a few lightly used ones.

More Ideas appreaciated (sp?)

Thanks Hailers

HAILERS

Pullng EGI INJ should have stopped the injectors from pulsing even though the ECU was putting a ground pulse on the injector (gnd on the injector coil without power to the coil results in no movement of the inejector).

I've no other thoughts. You've got spark. Either you've too much fuel or not enough fuel. The RTEK with foot to the floor should result in the injectors not working but spark still happening (all fuses installed).

I'd do the foot to the floor with three seconds of starter fluid sprayed into the snorkel or air filter. No other thoughts here. I assume the engine didn't suddenly break a apex seal etc.

AUGieDogie

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Well....... I swapped the batt. Then I checked spark (with the anti-flood kicked in) all four are good. Jumpered the fuel pump, which works. Finnally I sprayed in the starting fluid. Damn thing started right up. I have no idea what the hell is going on. Got something to eat, let it cool a bit, started right up. 6 or 7 starts at random times, started right up. I don't get it.

I just hope my luck holds. *it won't