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wont start by cranking 86 gxl with s4 turbo swap need major help

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Old May 28, 2012 | 05:21 PM
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Unhappy wont start by cranking 86 gxl with s4 turbo swap need major help

OK well i picked up a 86 gxl with the following mods.. It will not start by the key trys but just wont start... if i push it 5 feet and pop the clutch it fires right up and runs great and idles great pulls 12lb to 13lbs of vacuum at idle.. I have checked and searched everything and can't figure it out...

5500 on rebuilt motor.
full rebuild with bearings and everything.
oem apex seals
low miles rotors, housings and irons
extended street port
stock s5 turbo
3" exhaust
modded tb
all emissions removed
walbro 255 fuel pump
550cc primaries
680cc gsl-se secondarie
aem adustable fpr
omp removed
rtek 1.7 n333 ecu
s4 t2 afm
s4 t2 map sensor

I need some help on where to go from here... I need this thing to start by the key bad....

Last edited by yask4it; May 28, 2012 at 05:49 PM. Reason: revised didn't make sense sorry..
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Old May 28, 2012 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by yask4it
. It will not start by key trys but just wont start if i push it 5 feet and pop the clutch it fires right up and starts right up and runs great and idles great pulls 12lb to 13lbs of vacuum at idle...
might want to consider revising that it doesnt really make sense.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 05:49 PM
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So, you have a problem with the starter or maybe the battery is not at it's best.
Once you said that it bump starts easily there was no need to list everything else because it's irrelevant.

Check the battery first, fully charged?
Check condition of the wiring to the starter.
Finally, swap out the starter.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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it cranks over fine have had the battery charger on it and it cranks over fine... It acts like it wants to start it just wont catch...
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Old May 28, 2012 | 07:05 PM
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Check the AFM...it sounds fishy.
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Old May 28, 2012 | 07:49 PM
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I have checked it at the ecu and checked out ok at the ecu.. but goin to check it out completely tomorrow when i get off work...
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Old May 29, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerzzy
might want to consider revising that it doesnt really make sense.
makes perfect sense...
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Old May 29, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Nerzzy
might want to consider revising that it doesnt really make sense.
What's the problem your having with what he wrote???? He wrote " it won't start if I push it five feet and pop the clutch" and goes on to say " it fires up and starts right up". Perfectly clear to me. What part of "it won't start" and what part of "it fires up and starts" do you not understand???? Hmmmmmmmm, maybe you've got something there.

I'd say low compression issue that will improve once you get some ??? five hundred or so miles driving on it. Basically flooding during the start with low compression.
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Old May 30, 2012 | 05:08 AM
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well I checked out the afm yesterday when i got home the book says that the e2-vs should be 50-500 ohms when i checked it my multimeter says i have .280 kilohms and e2-vref is 200-500 and i got .281 kilohms... and at wide open e2-vs should be 50-500 and at wide i got .022...

Does that mean the afm is shot?
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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is that my problem?
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Old May 30, 2012 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by yask4it
is that my problem?
First thing you need to understand is how much is a kiloohm. A kiloohm is 1000 ohms. So a reading of .280 kiloohms would be 280 ohms. Thus .281 is 281 ohms. And .022 would be 22 ohms.
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