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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 01:46 PM
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Question Wiring diagrams for the S5 (1991), not online?

I am only looking to find an online copy of the wiring diagrams for the 89-91 cars. The 86-88 online FSM's have this section.

The S5 FSM's that I have found online do not include this section of the manual. I already have the papercopy, but find the PDF version handy when I am at work.

Does anybody know where one is? It is section "Z"


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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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I've been able to get everything I need from the "fuel & emissions" & "body electrical" sections.

Also the S5 AC section works for the S4 AC.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Details, details

Well, it's just that there are details in the wiring section that are not found anywhere else, such as wire colors and the connectors that they go through.

I have a problem where the passenger window will go down but not up?

I have tested the motor and the switch and both are fine. I am the point where I am trying to determine what is different about the circuit that is in play during the UP operation versus the DOWN operation.

I do know that the drivers side switch is involved, not only for power to but to provide a ground path.

Any ideas?
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:13 PM
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That's going to be a pain to scan in & convert to .pdf format. Those pages are like 8.5 x 17 or something ridiculous.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Get a haynes manual, thaty usually have a full diagram in the back for each generation of car it covers.
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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there isn't one on the net
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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Check out pages S-49 & 50 in section "14-body"
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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asherwood, I know what you are talking about, it's the special section for the S5's.

To my recollection it MAY be under the body section. But short of buying the FSM I had to take the ECU schematic and test the ECU connectors and the individual wiring harness connectors until I had it mapped out........... you might have to do the same.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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Now I have a job to do...

Originally posted by SureShot
Check out pages S-49 & 50 in section "14-body"
Yes, and thanks, those were the pages I was working from, it's just that they don't show the wire colors and connectors.

But it is a good test procedure and gives an easy to read layout of the window circuit.

Forcus: asherwood, I know what you are talking about, it's the special section for the S5's.

To my recollection it MAY be under the body section. But short of buying the FSM I had to take the ECU schematic and test the ECU connectors and the individual wiring harness connectors until I had it mapped out........... you might have to do the same.
I have the paperback version on the 1991 FSM, it's a bugger to read cause it keeps want to close. I normally like to print off the page I need and hi-lite or make notes on the areas I want to check.

Scott 89t2: there isn't one on the net
That's what I figured, just wanted to be sure before I dug out my scanner and began a project to contribute a little information back to the fold.

BTW, it seems that the problem was a dirty connection, after going to the driver's side and R&R'ing the main switch the window is back in action again.
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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PM me if you can get them scanned, I'll add them to my FTP site..
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Old Jun 16, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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http://www.teamfc3s.org/main/factory...ual/1989_1991/
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by SureShot
PM me if you can get them scanned, I'll add them to my FTP site..
I will, no promises as to when, but it will get done!

Oh yeah, a bit of an update:

When I said:
BTW, it seems that the problem was a dirty connection, after going to the driver's side and R&R'ing the main switch the window is back in action again.
I spoke too soon, and shouldn't have put the panels back on, yesterday it went down and stayed there. I drove around the rest of the day and it wouldn't budge

When I backed it in to the garage last night, I decided to try one more time...up she went!

Something flakey there, I really need to figure this out, not opening the window on a summer day is just not an option!
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 01:30 PM
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My wife's driver window is intermittent - drives me nuts..
It's an electronic auto down $witch for her Cadillac.

Maybe try some spray contact cleaner.
It's not a permanent fix but it may isolate what's wrong.

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